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Re: very fine wire

by hermannsae » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:37 pm

Jon wrote:Not for rigging but fine wire. Has anyone ever used this:

http://freetimehobbies.com/tetra-models ... 38mm-x-1m/

I'm looking for some thin wiring for hydraulic lines for 1/48 aircraft. Is it soft?
Never used the once from Freetime. For hydraulic lines or such I am using lead wire. You can get these at the fly-fishing departement.

For rigging I am using different threads.
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Re: very fine wire

by MatthewB » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:00 pm

wing_nut wrote:I get lots of wire in the fishing department of a good sporting goid stote...used for fly tying. .006" is easy to find.

Get a cheap set of ear buds at a dollar store. You can usually find wire in the down to .002"
I hadn't even thought about cannibalizing electronics.

If you get a cheap electric motor, you can also cannibalize the windings for wire that is .002" (maybe smaller).

MB

Re: very fine wire

by wing_nut » Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:40 pm

I get lots of wire in the fishing department of a good sporting goid stote...used for fly tying. .006" is easy to find.

Get a cheap set of ear buds at a dollar store. You can usually find wire in the down to .002"

Re: very fine wire

by MatthewB » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:44 pm

The Thermocouple wire is still the thinnest you are going to get, at .017mm (.0005").

The more affordable stuff is still .024mm (.001").

MB

Re: very fine wire

by blacman » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:32 pm

http://shelfoddity.com/index.php?route= ... duct_id=73

diameter 0.06mm. When unroll get straight. Ideal for rigging in 1/700

Re: very fine wire

by Jon » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:23 am

Not for rigging but fine wire. Has anyone ever used this:

http://freetimehobbies.com/tetra-models ... 38mm-x-1m/

I'm looking for some thin wiring for hydraulic lines for 1/48 aircraft. Is it soft?

Re: very fine wire

by nikosmadakis » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:50 am

caenis, is 0,04mm which is 1,4 cm in scale(1/350). Slightly more than half an inch.

Have i misunderstood something? And i apologize for getting off topic here.

Re: very fine wire

by MatthewB » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:23 am

nikosmadakis wrote:i think you got your decimals wrong. 0,1mm is 3,5cm not a foot (33cm) in 1/350. It's passable as rigging in that scale. Caenis is finer than that, 0,04mm less than half. Perfect for 1/700
I was referring to the .033" caenis thread, not .1mm.

MB

Re: very fine wire

by nikosmadakis » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:07 am

i think you got your decimals wrong. 0,1mm is 3,5cm not a foot (33cm) in 1/350. It's passable as rigging in that scale. Caenis is finer than that, 0,04mm less than half. Perfect for 1/700

Re: very fine wire

by MatthewB » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:55 am

nikosmadakis wrote:why not use caenis thread? The smallest wire i could find is 0,1mm (sorry dont know what that is in inches). Got it from an arts and jewelry supplies store. Its very passable in 1/350 rigging. For 1/700 caenis thread is half the diameter, not to mention dirt cheap (about 2 bucks for 200m)
.1mm is .025"

Caenis Thread is about .033". I suppose for 1/350 scale that would work for rigging (although in-scale that is almost a foot in diameter).

Which is why I posted the link to the Thermocouple wiring, which is only � scale-inches (the smallest Thermocouple wire is .0005", most being .001" to .01").

And Thermocouple wire is pretty inexpensive.

MB

Re: very fine wire

by nikosmadakis » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:28 am

why not use caenis thread? The smallest wire i could find is 0,1mm (sorry dont know what that is in inches). Got it from an arts and jewelry supplies store. Its very passable in 1/350 rigging. For 1/700 caenis thread is half the diameter, not to mention dirt cheap (about 2 bucks for 200m)

Re: very fine wire

by MatthewB » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:09 pm

Quincy wrote:If you have a Hobby Lobby in your location, they have different gauges of wire in their craft section.



Bob pink. :wave_1:
The smallest they have is around .02". I just got back from one looking for .010" wire.

MB

Re: very fine wire

by Quincy » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:01 pm

If you have a Hobby Lobby in your location, they have different gauges of wire in their craft section.



Bob pink. :wave_1:

Re: very fine wire

by MatthewB » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:11 pm

EJFoeth wrote:Don't strip down electric engines and such, do a search for "scientific wire" (or similar) or "winding wire". They sell small reels with a mile of the stuff in any thickness you think you might need. I used the "Scientic Wire" becuase you can solder it (winding wire is often coated; you can't tell it is until the soldering fails. But if that doesn't matter: great!).
See previous post:

Thermocouple wire.

MB

Re: very fine wire

by MatthewB » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:10 pm

I know that you can get fine brass/copper wiring that is as fine as a few thousandths of an inch (roughly a bit thicker than a human hair).

When thinking about rigging my USS San Francisco and HIJMS Nagara, I remembered the wires that I used to struggle with soldering on nano/micro-R/C airplanes (Radio Controlled airplanes with wingspans around 4" or 100mm).

The wire is called "Thermocouple Wire", and is available in sizes from .001" to .064":

http://www.omega.com/pptst/SPIR.html

This is what I plan to use to rig the ships, when I eventually get around to doing so.

The wire would be very close to "in scale" for 1/700, and for 1/350 scale you could get wire that was, in-scale, only �" in diameter (so you could have deck reels that had appropriately sized cables).

If you are a real glutton for punishment, they make wiring for prosthetic cybernetic components (stuff that is used for implanting electrodes to individual synapses locations in the brain) that is as thin as .0001" (and smaller). But it is hideously expansive (something like $10/cm). But if you REALLY wanted to get a �" rope on a 1/700 scale ship, then you would have to go with that stuff (I would have to get a link from one of my ex-professors for the smaller surgical/cybernetics stuff though), as well as sell a kidney or other redundant organ to finance the wire.

MB

Re: very fine wire

by Aekold » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:42 pm

Re: very fine wire

by EJFoeth » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:21 pm

Don't strip down electric engines and such, do a search for "scientific wire" (or similar) or "winding wire". They sell small reels with a mile of the stuff in any thickness you think you might need. I used the "Scientic Wire" becuase you can solder it (winding wire is often coated; you can't tell it is until the soldering fails. But if that doesn't matter: great!).

Re: very fine wire

by gott_cha » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:30 am

Old electronic equipment can be a good source.. Strip out the Coil and you will have many ft/meters of very fine wire. Also speaker wire can be stripped out for a good source...like small gauge electrical wire it's stranded..

Re: very fine wire

by weasel48 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:24 am

Detail assocs is alive and well on the Walther.com site, so I bought some, and must wait patiently for snail mail.

Thanks,
Weasel

Re: very fine wire

by dhenning » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:00 am

Detail Associates (a model railroading item) sells a 4 piece set of 12" long sticks of 0.010" brass. Part No. 2503. Check you local model railroading shop.

On the pack of the package that I have, they also list .006" (part no. 2501), .008" (part no. 2503). They also list a part no. 3503 for the .010 wire -might be longer sticks.

Good luck!

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