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Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Frank Spahr » Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:19 am

Too bad to hear about your health, I hope you are back to normal now!

Again, this is outstanding and extremely dedicated work up each and every single subassembly!

Best regards

Frank

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by JIM BAUMANN » Thu Mar 19, 2026 4:14 pm

hello all--I am back at the Bench

1 weeks holiday in Madeira and then 14 days plus suffering with food poisoning and its consequence( airport food?)
as well as general malaise have conspired to slow progress--

but not completely!!!
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Sailing ships( and steamers !) in rough weather and big seas could ship lots wateriin main deck-
( note the lifelines spanning that deck--crew can clip on whilst transiting fore and aft...(!!)

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-this tonnage of water must be gotten rid of quickly -- or stability can be impaired --hence ships are fitted with scupper drain lids
This top hinged lids allow the water to escape from both sides--important in a rolling sea
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I had carved off the moulded lids off my hull along with everything else right at the start
( they were too small-- and at the wrong angles! )

Replacement was harder--I searched through my entire stash of PE for something suitable ==> x 14 !

( plus spares for mis-cuts and, dropped etc)

Nothing and more of Nothing !!

except ........

a 20 + year old PE fret- 1/350 -L'Arseneal Liberty ship--- the somewhat overscale treads of
the boarding companionway were perfect --and plenty of them
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These will be affixed shortly!

the gargantuan " Big Vent" above the engine room flummoxed me
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Not owning a lathe I was unable to create the right shape and be sharp and edgey( its only ca 5.5 mm high) ****


I had these designed and 3-D printed for me by a kind French friend.... :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:

seen here under-coated.

**** They were printed in steps of 5% and 10 % so as to give latitude in exact size!

I subsequently drilled out the centres on my mini-pillar drill
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The figure head also again flummoxed me!

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carving or adapting a ' proper ' figure ( as on 1/700 Bretagne ) was easier than
trying to make a stylised and semi-abstract figure--which has in its right-hand a rolled scroll !!

I had this figure-head designed and 3-D printed for me-again- by a kind French friend.... :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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it is seen here attached with test fitting of the bowsprit
It till needs a bit more work to fair it in
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T 2 x he anchors were large 1/700 PE items--fattened with sprue and white glue. T

The hawse-pipe opening surrounds were made of wire and slightly ' ovalled'
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I stared work on the 2 x 27 ft whalers. these are broadly RN pattern
The best I could buy wee from Micromaster of New Zealand.

But these very fine 3-D prints have a different fit to those aboard rge Sagres ;

so needed work to adapt successfully !
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More soon..... ( PE and decals et al! )

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by ModelMonkey » Sun Feb 22, 2026 8:46 am

Another masterpiece in the making.

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Rui Matos » Wed Feb 18, 2026 11:11 am

Brilliant job, Jim!

:thumbs_up_1:

Cheers,
Rui

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Frank Spahr » Mon Feb 16, 2026 12:28 am

Arrgghh.

That is more than "incontheivable"!

Amazing and outstanding work and dedication, Jim!

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by wefalck » Sun Feb 15, 2026 5:37 am

Simply :thumbs_up_1:

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Joelle » Sun Feb 15, 2026 1:59 am

It's amazing what you're doing with all that rope.
Your attention to detail is truly admirable. :thumbs_up_1:

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by JIM BAUMANN » Sat Feb 14, 2026 12:03 pm

Thank you all for your kind words!
this is a challenge indeed....
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Now then... if there are masts --there is string !

and the ' string'--halyards, lifts, braces, sheets, hauls in and out etc etc--all these need and have a ' tail ...

ergo ==> rope coils at the end of every belaying point

I did this in 1/700 on Bretagne... and it gives a fair impression.

Image

but in double the scale it needs a bit more detail

I added the simulation of the bar that holds the turning blocks
for the halyards to go to the belaying pins
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In real life....
these bars are separately mounted slightly inboard
-- but 350 times smaller--and with the space requirements for handling in model format
--and the fact that my pin-rail legs are a little over-scale...
and that the real life the bar is approx only ca 120 mm or so distant from the leg
( in 1/350 = 0.34 mm )-- so its a permissible compromise in my view .... :heh: :wave_1:
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making the 100 plus rope coils is a tedious business--

-wrapping copper wire around 2 x drill shanks taped together, compressing them, shaping etc etc

the success / wastage rate is around 50/50
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once attached to the pin rail...it looked somewhat better!-
(-the rope coils are the devil to hold secure to paint )
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so nothing much new to come for the foreseeable time--

as there is nothing but rope coils in my life.......

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Pieter » Thu Feb 12, 2026 4:24 am

Nice to see you are using old-tech PEsets. I have been buying first generation Gold Medal Models sets a conventions for a few years now as they can be really useful for structural parts and the thick stainless steel tends to avoid the carpet monster.

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Rui Matos » Wed Feb 11, 2026 4:00 pm

Jim

The small low "box" near the capstan is a....
Ventilator

(another one)
Cheers,
Rui

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Rui Matos » Wed Feb 11, 2026 6:17 am

Nice progress, Jim!

Get back to you soon ;)
Cheers
Rui

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by EJFoeth » Mon Feb 09, 2026 3:08 pm

Same here and it can be repurposed so well to exact size!

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Sszabi » Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:54 pm

I'm always amazed at how creatively you can use leftover PE and other parts, and I'm also amazed that how much leftovers are in your stash :lol: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by marijn van gils » Mon Feb 09, 2026 1:18 pm

Most clever use of PE scraps as usual! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

I'm already looking forward to the rope coils on them (and of course the rest of the rigging!). ;)

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by SG1 » Mon Feb 09, 2026 12:52 pm

Sublime, especially the U-shaped belayed rail forward of the wheelhouse. A Work of Genius. Very inspirational as always :cool_2:

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by JIM BAUMANN » Mon Feb 09, 2026 12:16 pm

Hello WEillie et al; :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

herewith an update; mainly annotated photos;

everything for this projects has to be made;--being a ' modern ships -that is open to the public there are thousands of images to choose from on the internet , as well as screen-shotting various ' mobile phone ' travelogues on open days.==> videos that can be found on Youtube

almost too much information-!!!
- conflicted and complicated by the fact that between 1998 ( Oldest images online) and the present day,
all sorts of things change shape as well as colour !

here with the anchor windlass arrangements as in 2009-to now ( ish )
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The small 'traffic cone' ( made of a sharpened bamboo cocktail stick )
finds a home as the support for the control box of the winches
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EDIT

Ooop!!!s --I just noticed I need to elevate the' box-with-lid' onto a low pedestal! :doh_1:
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still needs check chains and handles on the 2 brake levers

Making vents...--difficult to ascertain sizes sometimes--as the mobile phones of ship visitors on he videos with wide angle lenses do distort things !
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The belaying pin rails around the fwd , main masts and mizzen masts
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-making these and maintaining exact spacings of the belaying pins-- and drilling very small holes in very fine bits of metal.....

The belaying have brass polished tops is hard....



I chose innovation over skill :big_grin: !
( though there are correctly spaced

x 9 belaying pins on the longitudinal axis and x 5 on the athwart ships ...




the images are self explanatory I hope;
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They still need more work to refine-

-but the reasoning and the principle are correct I think!

Though I reckon once they they are festooned with all the rope coils thy should look convincing.

==> after painting-- a light swipe with fine sandpaper should reveal the brass on the belaying pins

That's it for today-more soon

JB :wave_1:

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Willie » Wed Feb 04, 2026 3:39 pm

Hi there Meister Baumann and all,

Excellent project and as usual superb craftsmanship. Always good solutions for every problem.
I was onboard Sagres last May in Viana do Castelo. Sadly no pictures because we were in a shopping visit in Portugal, I had no idea the shipo was there and I had left my camera behind. Too bad. What a beautiful ship, and how well mantained she is.

Please keep your excellent pictures coming.

Best regards from this side of the North Artantic,

Willie.

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Joelle » Tue Feb 03, 2026 5:49 am

As always, fantastic craftsmanship.

Bravo! πŸ‘

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by marijn van gils » Tue Feb 03, 2026 2:36 am

Fantastic work Jim! Incredibly Sharp! :worship_1: :worship_1: :worship_1:

And thanks for sharing the method behind the madness πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

Re: 1/350 NRP SAGRES sail training ship (quite the challenge)

by Frank Spahr » Mon Feb 02, 2026 6:29 am

When you think it canΒ΄t get any better, Jim delivers. This is modeling at a serious level of genius, skill and uncompromising dedication.

Sorry, just need to recollect my jaw from the floor.

Frank

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