Scratchbuilding a WW2 USCG 83' Cutter in 1/24
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Scratchbuilding a WW2 USCG 83' Cutter in 1/24
Hello again all
Well, after completion and delivery of the USS Indiana project, I have taken a short respite from building. I am ready to get back at it! This new project is a bit off the wall for me. I am used to doing larger ships, so this small craft will be a good diversion for me. I feel it will make an interesting subject. How I got to this was I was contacted by a veteran, Mr. Jack Read, who served on these boats during the 1944 invasion of Europe at Normandy. He wanted to know if I could build him a replica of the boat. After looking things over, I agreed to start construction. In keeping with my feelings towards the Vets, I am doing this labor free. Mr.Read is now 88 years old. He is quite active for his age. He came to the Indiana presentation in Indianapolis recently, and drove all the way from Pennsylvania to meet me and check out the Indiana. A really nice fellow, as they all are. Let's take a look, and I'll give a brief rundown on things............
A brief Hisory lesson............The 83 footers were wood-hulled craft,the hull form was the round bilged type, single planked. The design for the boats was completed in March of 1941, and 40 boats were contracted to be built by the Wheeler Shipyards in Brooklyn, N.Y. With the advent of WW2, a further 190 boats were ordered. Early units were fitted with an Everdur bronze pilothouse. Due to a shortage of bronze, later boats were fitted with a plwood pilothouse. All craft were capable of 21 knots full speed at the time of delivery, but their performance was degraded by machinery wear as well as the increased displacement from armaments,radar, sonor, etc. Top speed was dropped to about 16 knots. During 1941-45 these boats were used for anti-submarine patrol, costal convoy escot,and search and rescue. They played a little known important role during the Normandy Invasions harrasing German U-Boats, but most importantly saving some 1500 lives. These boats were 83' in length, had a beam of 16 feet, and weighed in at 54 tons. They were powered by two Sterling Viking II gasoline engines, rated at 600 HP each. The boat carried 1900 gallons of 100 octane fuel. Later units were equipped with a 20mm MG at the stern, two 7.2 rocket launchers, and 8 depth charges. Only a handful of the proud little ships still exist today. Here's some more photos.................
Well, theres a description of whats new here. Due to the fact that the plans are rather poor for this subject, I have decided to use a fibreglass hull, rather than scratchbuild one. But it is just that, a hull. No details whatsoever. So there will be lots of scratchbuilding on this one. Model will be 1/24 scale which puts it at about 42". It will be waterline with crew. Stay tuned, more to come!!

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this will be interesting......
who's fiberglass hull are you using???....joe
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Hi Bill,
Good to see another build, really looking forward to the lessons
Andrew
Good to see another build, really looking forward to the lessons
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Hull comes from "Coast Guard Models" out of Illinois. Only saw one photo of it. It is supposed to be a "very clean product". We will see. I'm still waiting for it. They sent the first one to the wrong address, and it dissapeared. So I await another one. Not starting out to be so great..........desron48 wrote:this will be interesting......who's fiberglass hull are you using???....joe
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Hi Bill,
interesting subject!
Did these boats wear any camouflage schemes?
Bye,
Bernd.
interesting subject!
Bye,
Bernd.
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No, no camo. Just Navy Grey,red bottom, decks sort of a grayish color...weathered wood.109 wrote:Hi Bill,
interesting subject!Did these boats wear any camouflage schemes?
Bye,
Bernd.
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Bill,
You partially answered the first question that came to my mind. Where did you find plans for the boat?
I have had a lot of frustration trying to find builders' plans for small boats such as motor whale boats, utility boats and personnel boats. I did find plans for a small minesweeper in the National Archives.
You partially answered the first question that came to my mind. Where did you find plans for the boat?
I have had a lot of frustration trying to find builders' plans for small boats such as motor whale boats, utility boats and personnel boats. I did find plans for a small minesweeper in the National Archives.
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Hi Bill
Interesting little project you have there.
Any idea about the power output of the type as it's the first i've seen of them.
Roy
Interesting little project you have there.
Any idea about the power output of the type as it's the first i've seen of them.
Roy
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Hi Bill Just retuned from a break and I see that you are changing tack so to speak from the large to the small. Interesting subject . I will be looking at this build with great interest.
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and by looking at the photo's......looks like it should be a very quick very clean build.....looking forward.....joe
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An unusual subject but a very very interesting one... Looking ofrward to any progress... 
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Plans came from Floating Drydock, but are the original early production version. I am doing the later version of the boat. Mr.Read was able to locate plans for the later version from a CG Museum in Seattle, Wash. Drawn in 1/24 or close to it. I have yet to recieve them.DrPR wrote:Bill,
You partially answered the first question that came to my mind. Where did you find plans for the boat?
I have had a lot of frustration trying to find builders' plans for small boats such as motor whale boats, utility boats and personnel boats. I did find plans for a small minesweeper in the National Archives.
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Don't really know. I can tell you she pushed 1200 HP at the engines. No idea of SHP. Made about 17 knots top speed, not as designed.roy allen wrote:Hi Bill![]()
Interesting little project you have there.
Any idea about the power output of the type as it's the first i've seen of them.
Roy
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Hello again all.
While awaiting my fibreglass hull, I decided to take on the building of the pilothouse for the boat. I call it a boat as it's a bit small to be a ship. Overall length will be about 41", with a beam of 8.5", in 1/24 scale. After an exhaustive search, there were no original drawings to be found for this later plywood pilothouse. Mr.Read and his son, who is an accomplished CAD person were able to come up with some really good drawings of what we feel this unit should look like. A best guess scenario if you will. Mr. Read was aboard during WW2 and has a very good memory of the boat. It's really quite amazing after over 65 years. In any event, going by the CAD drawings, I was able to come up with a good representation of said pilothouse. Hull has now arrived and work continues. Let's take a look...............
Well, there's the rough-in on the pilothouse. Many more goodies to be added, so stay tuned! I continue on..................

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Very Nice 
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Well, I am quickly back
As I said above, the fibreglass hull has finally arrived after 3 weeks. A screw up in shipping, but nevertheless, it is here. It was advertised as a "very clean product". The verdict? Well, it is clean. But it has no details on it whatsoever. Up to the modeler to add those. Thats Ok, we can do that! It also has a slight twist to it from fore to aft. I will compensate for that during the rest of the build. I have never used a fibreglass hull before so this is new for me. All in all, I think it will work out. The general shape looks accurate, and the finish is good. A bit of sanding and tweaking here and there. Lets take a look.............
And theres the rough-in so far. Things going to plan Ok, if I can just get these people to send my stuff to the right place.
More to come............Stay tuned...........I continue on...................

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thanks bill.....looking great.....
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Hi Bill your build is once again is top draw. I do like the detailing in the wheel house, nice touch . A friend of mine who specializes in coastal warships and particularly landing craft of all types has built a working 83' cutter at the same scale, looks superb on the water. Great subject for modeling . I am amazed at your ability to go from one build to another almost without coming up for breath.
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Hello Dave, Thanks for the comments. Any chance of some photos of your friends 83' cutter. Like to see it...........Dave Wooley wrote:Hi Bill your build is once again is top draw. I do like the detailing in the wheel house, nice touch . A friend of mine who specializes in coastal warships and particularly landing craft of all types has built a working 83' cutter at the same scale, looks superb on the water. Great subject for modeling . I am amazed at your ability to go from one build to another almost without coming up for breath.
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Hi Bill Here is the photo of David Jack's 83ft type and two other sub chancers .
Hope this is of some help.
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Hope this is of some help.
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