Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scratch

Moderators: BB62vet, MartinJQuinn, JIM BAUMANN, Jon, Dan K

User avatar
JIM BAUMANN
Posts: 5686
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:30 pm
Location: Nr Southampton England

Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scratch

Post by JIM BAUMANN »

With the completion of 1894 HMS Halcyon in 1/350,
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=394901

herewith the new project--SS Ben My Chree-to be scratch built in 1/700

During last years Family Holiday on the Isle of Man ( in the middle of the Irish sea between Britain and Ireland)

....aside from the Islands natural beauty, the coast, the mountains, the steam trains, the Victorian trams-- horse drawn and electric,
as well as the famous Isle of Man TT motorcycle races.... one also cannot help but admire and fall in love with numerous plucky steamers
that have provided the only links with the respective mainlands since the mid 1800's...

The Ben me Chree name ( => in Manx speak--'Woman of my Heart' )
has been assigned to a number of these ships over the years.

The most well known , is the 1907 built steamer which was converted into a seaplane carrier in WW1- and sunk by Turkish artillery fire in 1915.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ben-my-Chree
( there is --conveniently-- a 1/700 kit of her --from AJM Models--reviewed right here at MW.com as below
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... chree.html

No such convenience for me--choosing the make a model of a more obscure vessel built in 1875. !!

first a bit of history....
Ben-my-Chree II was built by the Barrow Shipbuilding Co. at Barrow-in-Furness for Isle of Man Steam Packet Co.
and launched 6th May 1875.
As built, the �Ben-my-Chree� was a steel-hulled sail-assisted paddle steamer , length of 318 feet and powered by two 2-cylinder oscillating coal-fired steam engines with TWO Funnels ,-connected to mid-ship paddles port and starboard, initially giving her a top speed of 12 knots;
which, disappointingly ,was two knots below her contracted speed.

As a result of the inadequate speed, the Isle of Man Steam Packet Co. sent Ben-my-Chree back to her builders to be re-boilered in 1884 .
The new boilers did increase her speed to 14 knots ,resulting in her two funnels being replaced by four funnels; two forward and two aft of her paddle boxes.
Interestingly for an open sea ship, despite her relatively small size, she was certificated to carry up to 1,030 passengers.

Ben-my-Chree� , unlike her namesake successors, seems to have enjoyed a relatively uneventful career with the Isle of Man Steam Packet Co.

After a service period of 31 years, she was sold to breakers T W Ward & Co. in August 1906, and was scrapped in Morecambe, Lancashire.

===================================================================================================

How can one resist a FOUR funnelled paddle-steamer?
This vessel was surprisingly well photographed, though finding some of the less usual
and close up the images takes some digging in books as well as the internet

After extensive enquires with the Dock Museum at Barrow in Furness ( The builders )
Liverpool Museum, Manx IoM Museum, NMM Greenwich , Glasgow Museum etc
I ascertained that there are probably no plans surviving.
There is a GA drawing from 1998....
as below;
P1090950.jpg
but mainly photos, ranging from mediocre to excellent

The colour scheme would equate to this--as supported by a number of period paintings and other contemporary ships of that comapny
271178199_10220115106484468_1568738207760822152_n.jpg
The same image --of muuuuch better quality -upon really close inspection - gives much needed information
30LJJbE3Yz5Y4S0F.jpg
The bow view gives a helpful clue as to the hull profile fwd-- showing no ' hollow' in the flare
gN6jyDRPpxnYq7ga.jpg

...the paddle box midships could not be clearer ! :wave_1: :thumbs_up_1:
dcggd04UBb3bq6rs.jpg
the view from Bridge aft is helpful
I40QjkisrcAhJJZJ.jpg
shaping the stern will be much assisted by this useful( if low -res) crop from a larger general view photo
EPBRYPZq5CACo25C.jpg

There are a number of dead square side on images--where the outline is somewhat confused by the catwalk fwd
like this
Ben Me chree 2.jpg

the distinctive long foredeck and sweeping sheerline Fwd is illustrated well in this Photo
0HGt8MoHwbZqNM0K.jpg
as well as in the above drawing ....

ah... that Drawing ...

all is not as it seems alas... :scratch:
I overlaid a side-on-photo and the plan together--and a number of misleading problems came to the fore;

as below...
aaa  Ben-my-Chree_overlay_1 Dougl22as..jpg
aaa  Ben-my-Chree_overlay 2_Dougl22as..jpg

Ha!
....it seems like I have my work cut out for the foreseeable future....

More soon
Jim Baumann :wave_1:
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
User avatar
JIM BAUMANN
Posts: 5686
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:30 pm
Location: Nr Southampton England

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by JIM BAUMANN »

well I made a start last week... :cool_2:

I cut the hull and did rough shaping on my trusty bench belt-sander;
which very effectively removed the material from the very hard Jarrah wood

( very stable and very close grained )

( salvaged from the floor of a Victorian army barracks !) ergo the wood is 140 or so years old
P1060845.jpg
So as to allow the stem-head ( bow) to create an razors sharp stem ,
--I inserted a piece of stainless steel into a grove cut into the wood at the bow

( thereby it is cantilevered against sanding loads!)


then the filling and fairing began....
first I added F'oclse and poop decks to deck plan and filled the undercuts with
high grade automotive filler
P1060848.jpg
P1060854.jpg
P1060860.jpg

the bulwarks were added using styrene strip material ( bends in 3-D !)
P1060866.jpg

and thereafter I painted it in thick enamel --so as to act as a guide coat and fine 'filler '
P1060862.jpg

when the paint has hardened it will show up any areas that need further attention.
very very mild imperfections will mostly disappear when the paint is sanded

meanwhile I cut the paddlebox decks
P1060851.jpg
and some 14mm tubing ( in my ancient K & S metals tube cutter )
P1060870.jpg


and then offered and balanced the decks and paddle box ( using no adhesive other than will-power :big_grin: !)
to the hull to gauge the proportions
P1060871.jpg

all seems well!

More soon

Jim B :wave_1:
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
SG1
Posts: 406
Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:43 am
Contact:

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by SG1 »

A very promising start :thumbs_up_1:
User avatar
wefalck
Posts: 2094
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Paris
Contact:

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by wefalck »

Ahhh ... another one :thumbs_up_1:
Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Image Image Image Image
User avatar
JIM BAUMANN
Posts: 5686
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:30 pm
Location: Nr Southampton England

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by JIM BAUMANN »

Hello all

Much fiddly and boring stuff done recently ...

Making the main deck template to enable me to cut accurately my printed paper decking
P1060873 - Copy.JPG
The superstructure blocks of this ship were almost entirely wood panelled-
-aside from the " dirty " engineering block
containing engineers doors for boiler room access

I tried to emulate this wood panelling.

One " could " of course have created relief etched PE --or indeed 3-D printed this entire structure
especially if producing a kit --- or more than one mode of this ship l....

I started by cutting suitable ladder-stock into short lengths to make squares--
P1060909.jpg
- a tedious procedure to get good edges and square corners
P1060911.jpg
These were attached onto the previously cut and shaped superstructure blocks and deck houses
to give the impression of panelling

here are some in progress
P1060929.jpg
it was really quite difficult !!!

==> floating them onto thinned wet matt varnish,
and trying to keep keeping them all level and all evenly spaced
P1060922.jpg
..........and there was rather a lot of it !
P1060886 - Copy.JPG
some of the pieces needed portholes as well
P1060906.jpg
P1060901.jpg

after a first coat of paint--
P1060931.jpg
progress will continue

regards all Jim B :wave_1:
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
User avatar
wefalck
Posts: 2094
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Paris
Contact:

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by wefalck »

And I thought I work on small panelling ... :shock:
Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Image Image Image Image
marijn van gils
Posts: 2686
Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:24 am
Location: Belgium

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by marijn van gils »

Very precise micro-work! That will look lovely once painted completely and installed on the ship. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
Pieter
Posts: 1606
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:19 am

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by Pieter »

That woodwork looks very nice. I do wonder if it can be done faster by keeping the ladder pieces together.
User avatar
Frank Spahr
Posts: 449
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:47 pm

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by Frank Spahr »

An elegant vessel, and again such crisp and painstaking work! Looking forward to your further progress!
AKA "Doc Bear" (a bear of very little brain ...)
VMF'06 - German Gamblers
Veritable Modelling Friends 2006, Germany
hypno7
Posts: 374
Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:16 pm

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by hypno7 »

very good start! I am always learning new techniques with your build threads. Looking forward to the updates! :wave_1:
User avatar
zs180
Posts: 667
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:55 am
Location: Budapest, Hungary

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by zs180 »

Not just your method of construction but the choice of subject is unique and instantly recognisable.
Another great project!
Followed with keen interest.
User avatar
JIM BAUMANN
Posts: 5686
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:30 pm
Location: Nr Southampton England

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by JIM BAUMANN »

Gentlemen--Thank you.
The weather in England has been unusually --and I mean unusually dry and sunny,
( ==> baking hot modelroom !)
( with the odd day proper rain to keep it green) the fine weather continues
and so the distraction of driving our classic cars takes over ....
290738134_10158645571087124_8995931885329932655_n.jpg
sunbeam1.jpg
JB jag .jpg
JB 1964 Citreon DS  frogeye.jpg



and so on.... :smallsmile: --as you can see I am easily distracted by my Petrol mistresses !

But.... there has been occasional proper model ship , progress as the images below will testify;

aside from endless fairing and smoothing
P1070195.jpg


I found myself to be dissatisfied with my earlier paddle boxes--the surface of the media was not as smooth/ homogeneous as I would have wished ...

so I made some new ones ( x 4 in case of damage / error ) cut from of 14 mm thickwall brass tubing
which the outer faces made of Styrene ,
P1070200.jpg

The styrene was subsequently pared and sanded to shape -this also gave the correct final paddle Box width
P1070202.jpg

here are some images of the boat deck on the real ship,
note the deck is ' thin ' and the upper strake has an inset below
and that the davits pass through well inboard and inboard of the lower coaming
The deck also overhangs the lower hull a bit
ZGi0W1Zku90uwwAH.jpg
here is another view from fwd which confirms the earlier findings
I40QjkisrcAhJJZJ.jpg
and 3/4 port aft detail crop
WGV7JXGRPo3kRkmk.jpg
All styrene decking was too thick--brass is too soft -- and expands too much in heat/ contracts in cold
Stainless steel is better and more stable in terms of thermo dynamics

I cut my decking from a very wide ( 20 mm !) piece of stainless steel PE fret surround
This was cut with a new pair of Fiskars scissors
-looks unsubtle .... :big_grin: but very effective and as they are exceedingly sharp--almost distortion free :thumbs_up_1:
P1070187.jpg

This deck was drilled in my mini pillar drill- with very small holes- to take the davits shafts
P1070189.jpg
This will be clad with my usual home designed printed paper deck ( as seen first on my 1/700 Normandie )

Image

Image


I have started funnels-but no images yet.

meanwhile-- " on deck " --/ --or elevated view images of thsi ship are very rare
the above posted is what I have....

HOWEVER-- whilst watching a Youtube video of THE DUBLINERS....( yes--I do like them! :big_grin: )
singing the well known song 'The Leaving of Liverpool '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXVnmL1Kvmg

( with images of old Liverpool )

I had a proper little win .....a ' on -deck view ' photo appeared
the ship in the foreground ...is the Ben my Chree ,readily identified by her close spaced funnels

--not the best resolution or most informative- but it does confirm the position of the cowl vents ahead of the bridge either side of the fwd cat-walk
but it does throw up more queries see below
adubliner sdesck.jpg

More soon

Jim Baumann :wave_1:
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
User avatar
wefalck
Posts: 2094
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Paris
Contact:

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by wefalck »

The usual imaginative progress on some minute parts :thumbs_up_1:

Ah and those French 'Godesses' - my father had several between the late 1960s and mid 1980s, but the 'Break'-version. And I remember the somewhat weird looking Panhards from early travels in France ...
Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Image Image Image Image
User avatar
JIM BAUMANN
Posts: 5686
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:30 pm
Location: Nr Southampton England

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by JIM BAUMANN »

plenty of progress recently--

all of it painstaking !

The ' wood/paper ' decking mounted onto the stainless steel
P1070259.jpg

as the model consists of a solid wooden hull-- unsubtle tools
will not dish the weather deck !! :big_grin:
P1070265.jpg

The real ship had a multitude of rubbing strakes
I8mr0kgYUdhks3RG.jpg
P1070281.jpg



I replicated these with application of thin wire
P1070269.jpg

eventually.....
P1070284.jpg
P1070296.jpg
P1070281.jpg

and to blend the strakes and the sanded bow plate
P1070301.jpg
at long last-tangible progress !
P1070306.jpg
P1070313.jpg
I employed a few unusual techniques...(!)
P1070315.jpg

P1070319.jpg
at this point-with the strakes installed ,
I could space off the portholes -

-using contrasting colour tape as a consistent measurement...
that I could eyeball
P1070310.jpg

The upper deck supporting struts caused me a headache

--how to get them thin-and regular -and totally even...

==> solution... spares box PE used creatively :cool_2:
P1070331.jpg
P1070335.jpg

back to the paddles boxes....
P1070339.jpg
P1070347.jpg
P1070351.jpg

and onwards to the funnel bases ( bigger tube)
I40QjkisrcAhJJZJ.jpg
P1070361.jpg
P1070353 - Copy.JPG
P1070357.jpg
and then the funnels -( smaller tube ) - with hollowed out tube tops
to give the appearance of thin funnel walling
P1070369 - Copy.JPG
P1070375 - Copy.JPG

and then some more pleasurable installations
of previously prepared components
P1070377.jpg
P1070386 - Copy.JPG

and then back to the tedium of adding moire strakes to the
paddle box sides
P1070389.jpg
more soon

Jim Baumann
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
User avatar
wefalck
Posts: 2094
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Paris
Contact:

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by wefalck »

Nice summer-progress - an with reasonable weather in the UK I believe.
Eberhard

Former chairman Arbeitskreis historischer Schiffbau e.V. (German Association for Shipbuilding History)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Image Image Image Image
User avatar
Christian Bruer
Posts: 574
Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:44 am
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by Christian Bruer »

A very nice model and an excellent start in that small scale. Perfect as always.
Cheers,
Christian
_________________
AKA "Painter"
VMF'06 - German Gamblers
Veritable Modelling Friends 2006, Germany
User avatar
MartinJQuinn
Posts: 8541
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:40 pm
Location: New Jersey

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by MartinJQuinn »

Beautiful work, as always.
Martin

"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne

Ship Model Gallery
User avatar
JIM BAUMANN
Posts: 5686
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:30 pm
Location: Nr Southampton England

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by JIM BAUMANN »

Thank you gentlemen!
small report today.

The paddle box decks have been painted, and the stainless steel strips have been added to define the edges
P1070423.jpg
P1070434.jpg

and the paddle box strakes have been married up with those of the hull
P1070436.jpg
the next step was contriving a way of rendering the distinctive access steps to the bridge
that run around the inboard curve of the paddlebox

I did these--individually -the few there were -- on my 1/350 model of HMS Atherstone-
-where the paddle wheels and box were very much smaller than on this behemoth Ben my Chree!
paddle box steps HMS-Atherstone-24.jpg
these steps are distinctive to the eye =-- and are fwd and aft on the paddle-boxes
paddle box steps...jpg
paddle box steps.jpg
after a few false starts...(!!) I came up with this,...

a bit of delicate but firm pressure cutting on some 1/600 OE from Atlantic models....
P1070444.jpg
looks like this;

P1070450.jpg
and like this with paint!
P1070457.jpg
more soon Jim Baumann :wave_1:
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
User avatar
Iceman 29
Posts: 1945
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:35 pm
Location: Bretagne, France

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by Iceman 29 »

I love that! :cool_1:
Pascal

�Battleship Bretagne 3D: https://vu.fr/FvCY
�SS Delphine 3D: https://vu.fr/NeuO
�SS Nomadic 3D: https://vu.fr/tAyL
�USS Nokomis 3D: https://vu.fr/kntC
�USS Pamanset 3D: https://vu.fr/jXGQ
Pieter
Posts: 1606
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:19 am

Re: Isle-of-Man 1875 Paddle-steamer BEN-MY-CHREE 1/700 scra

Post by Pieter »

Nice solution. I would not want to be on those stairs in a gale though.
Post Reply

Return to “Works in Progress”