Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
They are called "Pit Logs" in the US Navy - no idea why. Maybe someone else can clarify.
The retractable part was called the "sword." They were typically hydrofoil shaped to reduce drag - something like the cross section shape of a sword blade. They extended deep enough to get away from the surface layer (water dragged along with the ship due to friction) in order to get a more accurate speed measurement. They were retracted in shallow water for obvious reasons.
The retractable part was called the "sword." They were typically hydrofoil shaped to reduce drag - something like the cross section shape of a sword blade. They extended deep enough to get away from the surface layer (water dragged along with the ship due to friction) in order to get a more accurate speed measurement. They were retracted in shallow water for obvious reasons.
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
My understanding is that "pit" is short for pitometer which in turn is a modified form of pitot tube. A pitot tube being a pressure sensor used to measure speed such as is common on airplanes. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.DrPR wrote:They are called "Pit Logs" in the US Navy - no idea why. Maybe someone else can clarify.
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Thank you both, guys!
I checked my drawings again ... the cross section is circular in the drawing.
I think I will file a flat surface to the front end at the tip and add a borehole to it for the nozzle, what do you think?
It�s time for a coffee and a cinnamon bun made by my wife....

I checked my drawings again ... the cross section is circular in the drawing.
I think I will file a flat surface to the front end at the tip and add a borehole to it for the nozzle, what do you think?
It�s time for a coffee and a cinnamon bun made by my wife....
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Hi,
I tried to find a solution of how the tip of the log might have looked - see attchment.
What do you think about it?
Bye!
I tried to find a solution of how the tip of the log might have looked - see attchment.
What do you think about it?
Bye!
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Hello, greetings from Greece,
Never posted before, just watching the wonderful builts of the members and picking some ideas.
please check here, might be what you looking for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitometer_log
I am also Bismarck fun, hope to built her model some day.
best regards
Christos
Never posted before, just watching the wonderful builts of the members and picking some ideas.
please check here, might be what you looking for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitometer_log
I am also Bismarck fun, hope to built her model some day.
best regards
Christos
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Hi Chris! thanks a lot for that link!tms wrote:Hello, greetings from Greece,
Never posted before, just watching the wonderful builts of the members and picking some ideas.
please check here, might be what you looking for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitometer_log
I am also Bismarck fun, hope to built her model some day.
best regards
Christos
have fun with your Bismarck!
Bye!
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BB turbine cooling water outlet, seachest, BISMARCK, 1/100 s
Hi,
working on the seachest of the CENTER turbine cooling water outlet ...
Bye!
working on the seachest of the CENTER turbine cooling water outlet ...
Bye!
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Hey guys, I love this! I have been working on the seachests for my 1:96 Oklahoma City and was wondering if I was the only one trying to model the bottom of a hull accurately.
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Hi Phil,
thanks! I really look forward to see your build!
The seachest is somewhat simplified as you won�t see much of it on the hull bottom and behind the grill. The sea chest above the bilge keel will receive more time for an accurate reconstruction.
The attached picture shows a more realistic shape of the sea chest - transition from rectangular to circular cross section.
Bye now,
Bernd.
PS: I did it again: this is not the BB turbine, its the middle turbine outlet!!
thanks! I really look forward to see your build!
The seachest is somewhat simplified as you won�t see much of it on the hull bottom and behind the grill. The sea chest above the bilge keel will receive more time for an accurate reconstruction.
The attached picture shows a more realistic shape of the sea chest - transition from rectangular to circular cross section.
Bye now,
Bernd.
PS: I did it again: this is not the BB turbine, its the middle turbine outlet!!
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Hi Bernd It's not often that you see this level of detail . I know Kiwi medic has put in the cooling water out lets . I trust that when you have completed the model you place a mirror beneath the keel .
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Hi Dave,Dave Wooley wrote:Hi Bernd It's not often that you see this level of detail . I know Kiwi medic has put in the cooling water out lets . I trust that when you have completed the model you place a mirror beneath the keel .![]()
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yes, will put it about 5" above a mirror - maybe with some LEDs for more light?!:D
I hope to see soon an update by Kiwimedic!
bye now!
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Hi,
that�s how they will lokk like when they�re finished. The PE parts are right in the making, hope to get them before christmas!
that�s how they will lokk like when they�re finished. The PE parts are right in the making, hope to get them before christmas!
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Hi,
I built the seachests for the cooling water outlet of BB and port turbines. Pictures show a first dry fitting of the sea boxes into the hull bottom.
Thanks to Ferdinand Sparenborg for his support!
Bye!
I built the seachests for the cooling water outlet of BB and port turbines. Pictures show a first dry fitting of the sea boxes into the hull bottom.
Thanks to Ferdinand Sparenborg for his support!
Bye!
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
very superb detail work,your bismark is a true labour of love
.i would hazard a guess .but i doubt there is anouther hull built with as much underwater detail

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Hi Russ,
thanks! Hull details are rarely seen, I guess a detailed hull is too sensitive for being damaged on a RC-model. It�s also hard to get the requiered info to do all the details. I enjoy details and my Bismarck will be a static model!
Bye now!
thanks! Hull details are rarely seen, I guess a detailed hull is too sensitive for being damaged on a RC-model. It�s also hard to get the requiered info to do all the details. I enjoy details and my Bismarck will be a static model!
Bye now!
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>>>> my Bismarck will be a static model! <<<
REALLY pleased to hear it!!
JIm Baumann
REALLY pleased to hear it!!
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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale
Nice nice progress
i will following
i will following
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You can see one or 2 of these grills at the start of the film "Sink the Bismark. They show some news clips of her launch... but it looks like you already haave the info. The grill in the clip was a rectangle with rounded corners, as you've drawn. I just mention it FYI.109 wrote:Hi,
thanks for the kind comments above!
I am working on my first PE parts for the grills of the sea chests. I have on foto of a grill and when compared to these pictures:
http://www.randive.com/sea%20chest%20cleaning.htm
p.s regards the 'dock keels'. The plan for HMS LION (1910) depicts them. I've never known what they were... it's drawn as a keel that didn't grow to reach adulthood, if you follow.
I've never, ever seen the modelled before... ever!!!
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No problem!JIM BAUMANN wrote:>>>> my Bismarck will be a static model! <<<
REALLY pleased to hear it!!![]()
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Bye!
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Hi,TCC wrote:You can see one or 2 of these grills at the start of the film "Sink the Bismark. They show some news clips of her launch... but it looks like you already haave the info. The grill in the clip was a rectangle with rounded corners, as you've drawn. I just mention it FYI.109 wrote:Hi,
thanks for the kind comments above!
I am working on my first PE parts for the grills of the sea chests. I have on foto of a grill and when compared to these pictures:
http://www.randive.com/sea%20chest%20cleaning.htm
p.s regards the 'dock keels'. The plan for HMS LION (1910) depicts them. I've never known what they were... it's drawn as a keel that didn't grow to reach adulthood, if you follow.
I've never, ever seen the modelled before... ever!!!
thanks for the input! Di you have the LION plans? It would be nice to see the drawings of the hull ...
Bye!
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