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Lets continue on difference between IJN Ise and IJN Hyuga.
This is an early 1940's picture(before the reconstruction to Hybrybid Battleships). Notice the training aiming device on top of the number 5# turret is in different position on both ships:
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One last difference, the armor plates on top of the turrets.

IJN Ise, notice different arrangement of the armour plates and different position of the vents, first pictures is during 1934: (before the last major reconstruction in the 1930's) while the right in 29 June 1933(again before the last major reconstruction in the 1930's- 1935 for IJN Ise and 1934 for IJN Hyuga) of IJN Hyuga as you can see they had different armour plates and different position of the vents, notice that there is no large spoting vents on the IJN Hyuga turrets:
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First one is IJN Ise, left is after the war and the right 1942, once more(compare with left image of 1934) the armour plates on the top of the IJN Ise turrets have been changed but the large spoting vents have been removed in the post war picture but still present in the 1942 picture, so they might have been removed after the conversion to a Hybrybid Battleship in 1943:
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Yellow arrow is pointing at the armour of the turret's roof, and red the different arrangement of the vents arround the anchor era of IJN Ise and IJN Hyuga.


And remember:Yellow arrows are the difference in the position of the vents arround the anchor era.

Edit:Blue arrow is pointing at a small difference at the left anchor chain(s) of IJN Ise and IJN Hyuga.
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Last, after the 1943 conversion to a hybrid carrier/battleships, the main mast was almost the same, exept some small details:
First one is IJN Ise, after the war 1945-1946:
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Second is IJN Hyuga, 1946:
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Also I suspect the IJN Hyuga's main mast was a bit taller. But Im not sure about that :smallsmile:
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Re: The pic of Ise's quarterdeck in 1945...

Does anyone have further information on the camouflage she appears to be wearing? Colors? Overall pattern? Other detail shots?

Thanks in advance.

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Nice set of photo comparisons, Atma.

Ise 1945 - there's a DVD with color movies of the sunken IJN ships for sale, somewhere online.
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Don Andrews wrote:Re: The pic of Ise's quarterdeck in 1945...

Does anyone have further information on the camouflage she appears to be wearing? Colors? Overall pattern? Other detail shots?

Thanks in advance.

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Atma wrote:By the way, can anyone can help me and translate this one(Gernot) ?
Thanks in advance.
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Nice work, Gernot.

Those objects on the previous page do look like some sort of training loader, particularly in the very last photo, with the side view.
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Gernot wrote:
Atma wrote:By the way, can anyone can help me and translate this one(Gernot) ?
Thanks in advance.
Done!
Thanks Gernot :thumbs_up_1:
I found that picture on internet, it seems it points the mistakes in the old IJN Ise and IJN Hyuga battleships released by Hasegawa.
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By the way, at the Shizuoka Hobby show there will be a re-release of IJN Ise in 1/350 with a complete set of PE and wooden deck and this time in 1/700 too. Just like the IJN Hiei but this time with a wooden deck added too :woo_hoo:
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It was nice to see another 1/350 Ise in today's gallery.
The hull shading is really cool. Is it made with an airbrush? The anti-splinter defenses on this Ise look a bit too bright and contrasting, some AA guns and railings look wrecked, main caliber points does not shine despite being brass and the windows come across a bit messy. And overall construction looks a bit rushed. Perhaps that was the idea behind the build and Zdenek probably wished to make Ise a bit more "tired" then his other ships. It is always a joy to see Zdenek ships however and I think models of Kongo and Akagi are his best so far. :thumbs_up_1:
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I would really like to convert a Ise to the normal battleship configuration. Any conversion sets out there?
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Don't think so, but I was expecting Fujimi to produce it once, as it would not be much effort from their ISE.
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No conversion set, but you can merge the 1944 IJN Ise from Fujimi with an all gun version of the old Hasegawa's IJN Ise or IJN Hyuga. And use various PE sets, still needs a lot of modifications as not even the turrets are the same(different armour plates on the roof for the late war version, etc).
Take a look at the pictures I posted on this thread about differences in IJN Hyuga and IJN Ise from late 1930's(time of the last major modification of IJN Ise class) till 1946-'48 when they were scrapped.
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Atma wrote:No conversion set, but you can merge the 1944 IJN Ise from Fujimi with an all gun version of the old Hasegawa's IJN Ise or IJN Hyuga. And use various PE sets, still needs a lot of modifications as not even the turrets are the same(different armour plates on the roof for the late war version, etc).
Take a look at the pictures I posted on this thread about differences in IJN Hyuga and IJN Ise from late 1930's(time of the last major modification of IJN Ise class) till 1946-'48 when they were scrapped.
Hard to do in 1/350. ;)
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Sorry I thought we where talking about 1/700 scale, in 1/350 is even more difficult(more scratchbuild etc) to make an all gun version of IJN Ise and IJN Hyuga.
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I recently came across the PE flight deck for Ise by Lionroar. Does anyone know if this was made for the Hasegawa kit or the Fujimi kit?
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If it's product number 700050, then it was released back in early 2007, well before Fujimi's kit came out - so it's for the Hasegawa kit.
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I think it can be used for both.
Here is a review by the way:http://www.steelnavy.com/LionRoarIseDeck.htm
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So can we expect a 1/700 Ise or Hyuga 1941 from Fujimi ever?
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Hi, I am in the final stages of building my Ise 1/700 hybrid battleship. I noticed that Hasegawa provided several plane supports (? Don't know what to call them, the ones that are under the planes, perhaps holding them in place) in its PE set. However, in order to depict her at the Battle off Cape Engano where she had no planes on board, do these supports remain on the ship, or are they not present at all?
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