Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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Re: Reconstruction of hull, Battleship BISMARCK, 1/100 scale

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This is just a guess, but the deck drains (scuppers) probably connect to holes in the ship's sides not far below the main deck. If you have high resolution photos of the hull look for these holes - they may have external spouts. This will let you count the number of deck drains and determine their approximate position.

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Hi,

there are one or two fotos showing a deck drain, one would have to check thier locations to the spouts in the hull. that�s a reasonable way to determine their locations.

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Hi, Bernd!

I have some doubts about regular positions of the drains (see photo)- but also there are large parts of the deck edge without the drains.

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Also there is no chance to "calculate" the drains positions using the hull photos: for example, one drain is (100%) close to anchors - but there are no openings in the hull at all!
I guess, the Bismarck had a special drain tube inside the hull - and they used it for collection non-salted water during rains...(It is foolish, but only explanation)

If you have any pictures with the drains- please, post them.

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Very impressive model !! :thumbs_up_1: With what plans do you work ?
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Hi,

I use as far as possible original plans and fotos.

Bye :-)
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Hello 109,

I see what I can find, as i have a set of plans issued by AJ-Press Poland, which are also in 3D format as well.
That's a very nice hull. Unfortunately for me, I have to do the same with my ship as well. I am building ther 1:72 scale Scharnhorst.
The hull bottom sea cocks outlerts and the water cooling entries and outlets are a wonder. Well Done. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Michel wrote:Very impressive model !! :thumbs_up_1: With what plans do you work ?
Michel :wave_1:

Btw, the Gally plan is a good source, too -> Google for more info
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Paul Salomone wrote:Hello 109,

I see what I can find, as i have a set of plans issued by AJ-Press Poland, which are also in 3D format as well.
That's a very nice hull. Unfortunately for me, I have to do the same with my ship as well. I am building ther 1:72 scale Scharnhorst.
The hull bottom sea cocks outlerts and the water cooling entries and outlets are a wonder. Well Done. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Cheers.

Paul.
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Great work on the Sh!

Look forward to see more of your work!
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Hi Bernd,

Any progress in the Bismarck project ?
We have no news since October.

I have a question for you. If I remeber correctly, you told us that the camber of the Bismarck's deck is constant at diameter of 490 m or something like that and at frame 112.3 the height of that camber was 360 mm which seems to be reasonable. Nevertheless, I have calculated the arc of the cercle with those values using the width of the frame minus the waterpassage at the edge of the deck and unfortunatelly those values do not match. Can you tell me your source of information and help me to find out the error ? I would appreciate it very much.

Kind regards.

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Rafael wrote:Hi Bernd,

Any progress in the Bismarck project ?
We have no news since October.

I have a question for you. If I remeber correctly, you told us that the camber of the Bismarck's deck is constant at diameter of 490 m or something like that and at frame 112.3 the height of that camber was 360 mm which seems to be reasonable. Nevertheless, I have calculated the arc of the cercle with those values using the width of the frame minus the waterpassage at the edge of the deck and unfortunatelly those values do not match. Can you tell me your source of information and help me to find out the error ? I would appreciate it very much.

Kind regards.

Rafael
Hi,

yes, i am still working on my Bismarck. You don�t see much progress in fotos, however. There will be updates in the future.

My data is

Balkenbucht 360 mm, R = 450,18 m. Width 36 m from the Bauvorschrift.

So the camber is 1% of the width of the hull. I checked the valies and they fit.

How is your project coming along?

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Hi Bernd,

Good to know that you are still working on your Bismarck. I am eager to see pictures of your latest work. Concerning the camber, I think I found my mistake. I understood from your post in page 16 that the diameter of the arc was 450.18 m and not the radius.
109 wrote:Hi,

finished the camber of the maindeck: DIA. 450,18 m; height of camber at center of main frame 360 mm.

Have a nice sunday!

Bye,

Bernd.
I have not make the check yet, but I will do it later, but in order to do so, should I have to reduce the width of the ship, 36000 mm minus 2 x 320 mm of the armor belt minus the water passages of 2 x 280 mm ? The width of the main deck would be that dimension I mean 34800 mm. This lead me to calculate the arc of a circle with 450.18 m of radius, 34800 mm width and 360 mm heigth. Let's see what's comes out...

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Hi,

I did some work on the barrels of the main battery. Some screwing detail is still missing, will follow soon. :wave_1:
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Hi 109 Question will each barrel be able to elevate separatly ? Thanks for the up date great work as usual :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
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Hi, thank you both!

I guess each barrel will have its own independent axle.

Merry Christmas! :-)
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PIP (Painting In Progress) :big_grin: of the barrels ... at least some color on my model! :woo_hoo:

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Hello Bernd, nice to your see progress!

Looking forward to see it even better!

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Hallo Daniel,

ja, komm einfach mal vorbei! :-)

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More PIP ...

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Hi, Bernd!


It is nice to see the new steps in your careful work!
I was surprised a little bit by a red color of B and C barrels. Please, write, what a period the barrels were painted red?


Happy New Year!

Anatoly
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