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 Post subject: Re: 1/700 Zhemchug
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:34 pm 
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The flags are made of paper from a used shop till receipt (!!) which has a nice hard surface finish....

( I leave them on a window sill for a couple of weeks so as to check which are UV resistant --

very important--some cheap till receipt paper can go yellow.... )

I then use a fine blue ballpoint pen to make a series of crosses of the correct angles

I then hold the paper onto the window and trace the crosses thru from the other side.

Cut flags to chosen size- the blue cross is a constant irrespective of size

-(failure rate at cutting is high :big_grin: ) ... I make a lot of blue crosses.... :cool_2:

I then sandwich the flag inside tissue paper

( so as to soften the radius of the creases and also absorb any excess biro ink)

and crumple the flag extensively using very fine pointed tweezers--angling the creases to reflect the weight of the flag and also the angle of the flag-staff in lightish breeze...

( have a look here also at my 1/350 French flags )

quoted from my Bouvet build article page 4

These ensigns were made on thin waxed paper, the white was masked with Tamiya tape--suitably de-tacked so as not to lift the surface of the paper and then coloured with artist water-soluble coloured pencils. When dry the flags were sandwiched in thin tissue paper and the brutal crumpling began.... After four failed attempts the result was to my liking--an Ensign stirred by about 10-15 knots of breeze..

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( have a look here also at my 1/700 French flags )


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and 1/700 Austro-Hungarian flags

see more here:
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... index.html

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Hope it helps

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:51 pm 
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Wow, thank you, Jim. You have provided more information than I could have possibly hoped for! I'm going to try something like this on my (second attempt) to fully rig my King George V this evening. I ended up setting a portion of the rigging on fire trying to heat tighten it... wife is highly sensitive to incense so I tried to do it from a distance with a light... :heh:

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...>> wife is highly sensitive to incense ....<


You need to try and source a low-odour smoke source--( that is tricky! )

or better-- do your rigging in a closed room whilst using a carbon air filter
and leave it running for a while after you have left the room upon completion of the rigging

example http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bionaire-BAP924 ... B003UA1830

or even a carbon air scrubber.

they work well-- I used one in my office back when I still smoked cigarettes....

that way you will get perfect models and a happy wife...


alternatively a hot wax tool( like a small soldering iron)

( Frank Spahr's preferred tool)

http://www.sculpt.com/catalog_98/steelt ... xTools.htm

( some people do use soldering irons--but I think they are clunky--try and get a small low 12 volt cordless soldering iron if you go down that route...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:19 am 
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Hi all,

Jim asked me to explain what I use for tightening rigging. Being a dentist, I learned some basics of prosthetics technique in dental school, so I am comfortable with some of the tools used there.

I use a small and cheap spirit burner, which should be easily available, plus a dental waxing instrument, a clone of the classic gold-colored PK Thomas #1 or the green #2 (Mr Thomas was a pioneer in dental technology in developing a systematic approach to replicating the occlusal surfaces of teeth, and a set of five color-coded instruments bearing his name was among the first stuff we had to buy in dental school)

An affordable clone of this instrument should be available.

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The image shows the spirits burner plus the #1 instrument, and a Le Cron modeling knife, plus some casting wax I used as a filler in past years.

Heating the waxing instrument with the spirits burner gives me a controllable heat source that can only get colder the longer I handle it, so I´m more comfortable with it than a tool that contantly emits heat.

My poor results in contrast to Jim´s mastery of the subject do prove that success is more in the skills than in the tools, though ...

Kind regards and best of luck from

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Hi, Jim, this is a very interesting building report from you again. The model looks very successful.

:wave_1: Jörg

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Thank you Jim for this lecture in how flags could be done properly. :wave_1: This very helpful

@ Frank, I totally agree it is not a question of tools or material you use, if you leave me the most expensive tools or materials I will never reach Jims rigging mastership. :Mad_6:
Sometimes I suspect he has some well trained spiders hidden in his modelling dungeon :big_grin: and leaves us poor fellows fiddling arround with all these lights and heated things burning our riggings. :whistle:

Anyway this Zhemchug is again a Masterpiece, my depest respect Jim :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:41 am 
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Absolutely fantastic Jim! A real feast for the eyes! (As always!)

An interesting comparison between Jim's complete mastery and OOB can be made here.

I added a partial level of fender wale from stretched sprue, opened up a solid cast compass platform and made anchor beds and a confused shield at the bow, but there's not much else scratched or modified. Those solid-block funnels and ventilators are just...well. :heh:

Congratulations on another stunner, Mr. Baumann; a perfect "ebony" to your Novik's "ivory". :thumbs_up_1:


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Thank you gentlemen for your encouragement!

@ peter!-- am watching with envy your Koreeitz!

@ Tom L-- it was actually your model that spurred my interest in that class of ship...

first came Novik ... and then Zhemchug--all your faultTom ! :thumbs_up_1:

Cheers

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Well that last lot on the flags/rigging has been very Interesting.

Thanks for sharing this with us Jim :thanks:

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Just found this excellent photo-

-which whilst being a different mooring buoy

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does fortunately coincide with the line arrangements on my model!

Phew!! ( though it does show clearly that I need to increase the size of my bow-crest!!


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She will appear in the gallery in due course


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