109 wrote:Some of the rivet detail is "wrong" if you allow some constructive comments. Don�t know if you can change things at this stage?
Hi, Bernd!
Some constructive comments are not allowed but strongly recommended!!
Of course, I have no detailed drawings about the hull's paneling. My riveting is just my investigation (see also my post from 22.01.2012 in your topic). But if you show me the mistakes, I will try to fix them!
With best regards -
Anatoly.
You are right, Fliger, it was a helljob with the upperdeck. I think, nobody in the world has the upperdeck of the kind (in scale 1/200). And when I look at the result, I feel good. A proudly good.
It is a bettest reward for the spended time. I wish all shipmodellers to feel so looking at their models-
at any stage of work!
Bernd, could you, please, draw the correct rewets lines on my pictures above? I am ready for correction of my hull -at last, it was the main aim of my topic here!
I planked the weather decks on my 1:200 Missouri, but not as detailed with the planking borders as you did. As that ship has had a very long life and underwent extreme modification, walking about the decks today there are all sorts of strange areas of planking. The one area that is not is the decking around the aft main turret which has been redone since she went out of commission. My model currently has this area in steel, correct for certain times in her life. I may get ambitious and plank this as I like the look of the individual planking. Yes you should be very proud. And pleasd with this.
The cooling water intakes are a rather interesting feature of the ship, forced upon the designers (I Expect) by the shallow depth of the Kiel Canal. Indeed not an optimum solution, being a hole right through the torpedo protection system, and also being somewhat vulnerable to damage from mines and near misses. Many US carriers were designed to steam astern at fairly high speed and even had arresting wires forward such that the ship could recover aircraft steaming astern if damage aft precluded a normal recovery. Later in WWII this facility was removed. As separate and somewhat smaller astern turbines were fitted, cooling was not an issue.
The availability of dockyards, harbours and slipways often determined ship charchteristics. US Battleships had draft and beam limitations due to the Panama Canal and some harbors such as Pearl.
Hi, Tom!
I read your post with interest. Yes, the Bismarck's cooling intakes are (were) unusial technical solution- and I had a discussion with Bernd about it (it was at Bernd's topic approx. a year ago).
But drawings prove the location of the intakes!
By the way, Tom, I tried to find photos of your model at the forum -but without a luck.
Could you give a link to your Missouri?
With best wishes - Anatoly
I came to this forum far too late in the project to have its own its own thread, so there are a few photos of it in with Lucky's 1/192 modern Missouri. Probably a few photos as well in the battleship-Iowa class area. The amazing part is that it is a rebuild and conversion of a model I completed 50 years ago.
Having had occasional access to the ship itself both 50 years ago and currently, has been somewhat of an inspiration. Always learning new things and refining technique.
You are right, Fliger, it was a helljob with the upperdeck. I think, nobody in the world has the upperdeck of the kind (in scale 1/200). And when I look at the result, I feel good. A proudly good.
It is a bettest reward for the spended time. I wish all shipmodellers to feel so looking at their models-
at any stage of work!
Bernd, could you, please, draw the correct rewets lines on my pictures above? I am ready for correction of my hull -at last, it was the main aim of my topic here!
With best regards-
Anatoly
Hi, I will post some infos soon
Thanks & Sources: Nilsson (research) and J.Arntz (research, drawings).
Thank you Anatoly
I always see your topic too with great interest and the detail of many things
you do i very good and worthy of a great modeler indeed
The hull is my favorite part of any ship. Your hull is excellent. I'm pretty sure it's the most detailed one around in that scale. Very sharp work and looks flawless!
Hi, Tom!
To be honest, a shipmodelling was my little hobby - really, it wasn't very serious. But I like the tecnical history and I have the large tecnical library. My "ripening" for the Bismarck was long and even unexpected ( the Hachette's partwork was a final drop..)
The battleship was a tecnical masterpiece -the every detail is important- and I am trying to be correct in a every detail. And I believe, I have enough powder to continue and win!
I have friends in Novosibirsk whom I have visited, I enjoyed my time in Russia. Spend more time these days flitting in and out of the stans these days, was in ALMATY a few weeks ago.
The technical aspect of these ships can be very fascinating. It is amazing what could be done in the pre microchip analogue era with skilled operators of complex equipment. I also have a very large library, but one that focuses mostly on operational and historical events.
Keep on with the good work on a very long term project!
Hi everybody!
Section XXII - is next and last.
So, friends, it is time to say "good-bye!" for the topic. My thanks -for all who interested and supported me.
The hull will stay in its box and will be waiting the other parts and painting. Rest works with the hull you can find as additional info in... In my next topic, of course!
I posted the Schallanlage in my Bismarck build. Your version is incorrect. Bs and Tp had an other arrangement of the plates. Do you need any measurements?
Bye!
Thanks & Sources: Nilsson (research) and J.Arntz (research, drawings).
