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New Years group build
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Re: New Years group build
Nice! I wish I could airbrush indoors, its just slightly too cold outside for me to paint
See you Saturday!
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Lots of unfinished model ships + attention issues = A busy slipway where nothing gets done!
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Re: New Years group build
thanks Chris ,
Gordon ..i admire your patience in the masking operation
here a small update , kind of busy in the last days but i managed to mill and paint a simple little wood base . little progress on the ship ..but a progress is always a progress
i will show her at the anchor with a small pontoon on one side ( i may also add a small tugboat ) .
for the sea i set an artist watercolor paper on the base , i made some test some time ago and after a while i noticed that the painted paper start to lift from the base on the corners ( i used double side tape ) ...unfortunately the result of that test come into my mind few minutes ago' ( when the ship was already glued on the base
) , now i was thinking to try to seal the watercolor paper with thinned wood glue , but i am not sure this will prevent the problem to happen again .
Gordon ..i admire your patience in the masking operation
here a small update , kind of busy in the last days but i managed to mill and paint a simple little wood base . little progress on the ship ..but a progress is always a progress
i will show her at the anchor with a small pontoon on one side ( i may also add a small tugboat ) .
for the sea i set an artist watercolor paper on the base , i made some test some time ago and after a while i noticed that the painted paper start to lift from the base on the corners ( i used double side tape ) ...unfortunately the result of that test come into my mind few minutes ago' ( when the ship was already glued on the base
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Re: New Years group build
How did you secure the ship to the base? Did you cut out a section of paper or did you secure her directly to the paper?
Either way, remove the paper completely and remove all tape, replace paper if need be. Attach the paper to to the wooden base with wood glue. I leave it sit over night with a heavy weight on top to insure max adhesion. Wipe away any glue that oozes out BEFORE it dries or you'll have to sand/chip it off and you'll ruin the stain. That's why I always stain afterwards...learned to hard way
Any idea what weight the paper is? I always use 300lb cold pressed for its thickness and surface texture. If the paper is less than 300lb, like 140 or even 90 then BE CAREFUL with the amount of glue. Those thinner papers can soak it up and begin to buckle rather easily. Although, that might be a neat way to get a disrupted surface? Hmmmm...
Hope that helps,
-Mike
Either way, remove the paper completely and remove all tape, replace paper if need be. Attach the paper to to the wooden base with wood glue. I leave it sit over night with a heavy weight on top to insure max adhesion. Wipe away any glue that oozes out BEFORE it dries or you'll have to sand/chip it off and you'll ruin the stain. That's why I always stain afterwards...learned to hard way
Any idea what weight the paper is? I always use 300lb cold pressed for its thickness and surface texture. If the paper is less than 300lb, like 140 or even 90 then BE CAREFUL with the amount of glue. Those thinner papers can soak it up and begin to buckle rather easily. Although, that might be a neat way to get a disrupted surface? Hmmmm...
Hope that helps,
-Mike
Drawing Board:
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
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Re: New Years group build
hi Mike , the ship is attached to the base with wood glue on the border of the paper and i used CA in the center , i dont think will come out easily but i can try .
the wood base its stained with clear stain and than refinished with a semigloss varnish . i guess next time i will do this at the end
i used watercolor paper of 140lb , i wasn't aware of a thicker paper ..i guess i will give a look at hobby lobby they have a lot of stuff there .
thanks for the tip
the wood base its stained with clear stain and than refinished with a semigloss varnish . i guess next time i will do this at the end
i used watercolor paper of 140lb , i wasn't aware of a thicker paper ..i guess i will give a look at hobby lobby they have a lot of stuff there .
thanks for the tip
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Re: New Years group build
Never glue your ship with either of those glues, especially NEVER use CA!!! Acrylic Gel Medium and/or screws through the hull are the best ways to make sure the ship won't come off the base.
I'd scrape the paper off the hull as much as possible and wait to attach it until you put the first layer of gel down. Put a nice thick layer where the ship will go and press it into it. Reshape the gel with a small putty knife or other appropriate tool. Oil painter's palette knives work very well for that, look for them in Hobby Lobby. Paint the gel, gloss coat it and call it done.
140lb should work fine. Its the 90lb stuff you have to be really careful with. I use 300lb because I do watercolor paintings and I always have scrap laying around. I prefer it over the lighter papers because it won't buckle unless you pour a bucket of water on it. Some of the others will start buckling after the first coat of paint.
I'd scrape the paper off the hull as much as possible and wait to attach it until you put the first layer of gel down. Put a nice thick layer where the ship will go and press it into it. Reshape the gel with a small putty knife or other appropriate tool. Oil painter's palette knives work very well for that, look for them in Hobby Lobby. Paint the gel, gloss coat it and call it done.
140lb should work fine. Its the 90lb stuff you have to be really careful with. I use 300lb because I do watercolor paintings and I always have scrap laying around. I prefer it over the lighter papers because it won't buckle unless you pour a bucket of water on it. Some of the others will start buckling after the first coat of paint.
Drawing Board:
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
1/700 Whiff USS Leyte and escorts 1984
1/700 Whiff USN Modernized CAs 1984
1/700 Whiff ASW Showdown - FFs vs SSGN 1984
Slipway:
1/700 Whiff USN ASW Hunter Killer Group Dio 1984
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Re: New Years group build
Hi guys
Some progress, I guess I jinxed myself by proclaiming I would have it done last weekend. I gave it a go today and definitely moved the needle, just not 100%.

For some reason, all of my pics tonight are uploading sideways. I will try and take more on Saturday. Really loving what I'm seeing from you guys, I haven't seen any of these Samek kits and now we've got two in one build.
Keep up the great work everyone!
Matt
Some progress, I guess I jinxed myself by proclaiming I would have it done last weekend. I gave it a go today and definitely moved the needle, just not 100%.

For some reason, all of my pics tonight are uploading sideways. I will try and take more on Saturday. Really loving what I'm seeing from you guys, I haven't seen any of these Samek kits and now we've got two in one build.
Keep up the great work everyone!
Matt
In the yards right now:
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
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Re: New Years group build
Love the work guys. Scharnhorst will be back out of the dock once I get over how much I love my Tiger build.
- Chris
1/700 Saratoga w/Pontos (Needs paint)
1/700 Potato w/Kurama (On hold)
1/700 Murdertorpedoboat Ooi
1/700 Saratoga w/Pontos (Needs paint)
1/700 Potato w/Kurama (On hold)
1/700 Murdertorpedoboat Ooi
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Re: New Years group build
Indeed, great stuff all around. I hope to give the Wyoming some TLC either today or tomorrow, I've (re-)learned that modelling on weekdays is not possible, with work sucking out all creative spirit and me hanging zombielike on the couch after coming home and all.
If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett
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Re: New Years group build
Matt,
The Delaware is looking great.
I got the decks painted on the Chevalier last night a day ahead of schedule. She is now ready for a gloss coat on the decks and then the anti-slip mats (decals) to be added.
The Delaware is looking great.
I got the decks painted on the Chevalier last night a day ahead of schedule. She is now ready for a gloss coat on the decks and then the anti-slip mats (decals) to be added.
Gordon
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Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
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Re: New Years group build
Some progress: added the ship's boats. Add a lot of clutter and life. I always dislike have to fit a ships's boats, for some reason. And that even when my favorite builds are predreadnoughts that can fill a small marina all by themselves. But this went all right. Next are the searchlight platforms on the masts, some details, the final railings on the main deck and then last paint touch up round.
Matt, gotta say, your paintwork on the Delaware is a lot sharper than mine!

Matt, gotta say, your paintwork on the Delaware is a lot sharper than mine!

If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett
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Re: New Years group build
Michel, thank you for the comment but I assure its a trick of the light. Your build is looking great, as is everyone else's. I think I am going to call the Delaware done.




I tried to experiment with some subtle weathering just to keep it from being monochromatic. Most disappeared with the flat coat, but I am fairly happy. Not my best work but this kit fought me hard, so I am happy I finished it.
Looking forward to see everyone else's work!
Matt




I tried to experiment with some subtle weathering just to keep it from being monochromatic. Most disappeared with the flat coat, but I am fairly happy. Not my best work but this kit fought me hard, so I am happy I finished it.
Looking forward to see everyone else's work!
Matt
In the yards right now:
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
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Re: New Years group build
Nicely done, Matt. Your Deleware looks great.
I have made some progress on the Chevalier this week but not without any problems. I droped
it on to the floor and she sustained some minor damage. I fixed some of it and just left the rest the way it is. The boot stripe has been painted on , the prop guards have been installed and the anti-skid mat decals have been applied. The mats took three evenings to install and several more to tidy up the darn things.
The amidships bulwarks have also been installed
With just about all of the small parts added on. With just about all of the bigger parts setting on ship.
I have made some progress on the Chevalier this week but not without any problems. I droped
it on to the floor and she sustained some minor damage. I fixed some of it and just left the rest the way it is. The boot stripe has been painted on , the prop guards have been installed and the anti-skid mat decals have been applied. The mats took three evenings to install and several more to tidy up the darn things.
The amidships bulwarks have also been installed
With just about all of the small parts added on. With just about all of the bigger parts setting on ship.
Gordon
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
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Re: New Years group build
Thanks Gordon, the Chevalier is looking excellent as always. I started and finished for now my P-102/USS Stewart as she was when she returned to the US in late 1945. I don't like how she looks in the case I have, so I will do a waterscape when I get another one that I like better.



Hope everyone else is progressing well and look forward to seeing everyone's builds complete
Matt



Hope everyone else is progressing well and look forward to seeing everyone's builds complete
Matt
In the yards right now:
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
- Gordon Bjorklund
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Re: New Years group build
Matt, your USS Stewart is an interesting choice for a build and she looks great.
I got a little bit more done on the Chevalier this week. She is now mounted to her base, the railings are on, DC racks installed, anchor chains installed, the 5" guns are mounted, the quad 40's and the twin 20's are also mounted.
Now on to mounting the foremast.
I got a little bit more done on the Chevalier this week. She is now mounted to her base, the railings are on, DC racks installed, anchor chains installed, the 5" guns are mounted, the quad 40's and the twin 20's are also mounted.
Now on to mounting the foremast.
Gordon
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
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Re: New Years group build
Hi all , been super busy lately ...but at least i was able to make some progress .
thanks for watching
Daniele
thanks for watching
Daniele
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Re: New Years group build
Daniele,
Your build is looking great, you really have made quite a bit of progress on her.
Your build is looking great, you really have made quite a bit of progress on her.
Gordon
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
- Gordon Bjorklund
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Re: New Years group build
It's time to call the Chevalier done.
Now it's time to take another started kit off of the "Shelf of doom" and finish it.
Now it's time to take another started kit off of the "Shelf of doom" and finish it.
Gordon
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
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Re: New Years group build
Daniel,
Great looking build so far! She is really coming along.
Gordon,
Another awesome looking build. Exceptionally clean
. What's coming off the shelf of doom next I wonder?
Matt
Great looking build so far! She is really coming along.
Gordon,
Another awesome looking build. Exceptionally clean
Matt
In the yards right now:
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
USS Utah AG-16
On Hold
1/350 USS Portland CA-33 1942
1/350 Trumpeter Texas with a twist
- Patman
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Re: New Years group build
Nice build Gordon.
Do you know if they are FRAM conversion sets for that kit?
Thank you
P
Do you know if they are FRAM conversion sets for that kit?
Thank you
P
Done:
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
- Gordon Bjorklund
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Re: New Years group build
Patman wrote:
"Do you know if they are FRAM conversion sets for that kit?"
I don't know of any FRAM conversion kits.
I beleive that Dragon has a kit on the "Shelf of Doom" that someday will be released.
"Do you know if they are FRAM conversion sets for that kit?"
I don't know of any FRAM conversion kits.
I beleive that Dragon has a kit on the "Shelf of Doom" that someday will be released.
Gordon
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid
"Then there was one patched-up carrier...."
Vice Admiral Thomas A. Kinkaid