Calling all Nagato (長門) and Mutsu (陸奥) fans

[peppe]

some illustration of folded crane from ajpress nagato vol 2
ciao peppe

[Atma]

Thank you very much guys !

[Haijun watcher]

Alright, I did a search and couldn't find what I was looking for, so I apologize if this has already been covered before.

Did either Nagato or Mutsu ever sport a flying-off platform for biplanes similar to the one depicted in this battlecruiser Amagi/Akagi picture?

[peppe]

in 1920 nagato have a experimental platform (from the polish book on the class edited from ajpress)
ciao peppe

[Haijun watcher]

Thanks Peppe. Did Nagato retain this flying off platform until at least 1927? The 1927 fit is depicted in an Aoshima kit.

So Mutsu never had one?

[peppe]

from the same book: platform was fitted in late 1925 and removed in early 1926 after some test.
ciao peppe

[ijnfleetadmiral]

Got a question about AA platforms.

The AA platforms fitted on the funnels of both Nagato and Mutsu during the late 1930s had three main pillars supporting them. On each side there were one vertical, one angled inward, and one angled outward. Most models and reference drawings show no extra supports on them. The Futabasha books for 1941, 1944, and 1945 do agree with this. However, pictures taken of Nagato in 1945 clearly show that there were struts joining the pillars horizontally roughly midway between the deck and the AA platforms themselves, as well as that there were diagonal bracings between them and the upper supports.

The questions are:

1) Were those diagonal bracings there since the platforms were fitted, or were they added later?

2) If the diagonal bracings were added later, when were they added?

and

3) Was this done just to Nagato or Mutsu as well?

TIA for any info!

[Dan K]

Good question. The Model Art Super Illustrated Guide to Nagato shows no additional bracing or cross-bracing. Photos were much tougher, though I finally found this photo of Mutsu's funnel from Oct, 1941. Also no bracing.

[Thomas E. Johnson]

Without going through this entire thread, I have been reading in other parts of the forum about how horrible and inaccurate the 1/350 Hasegawa kit of the ship is. Is the kit really as bad as that? I'm not an expert on the ship but comparing the kit from what photos and blueprints that I have seen, it looks pretty damn close to me.

[Timmy C]

The only thing majorly bad about it that most people would notice is the spreadsheet pattern cut into the hull. Gaston says the stern is the wrong shape, but that's quite difficult to explain and rather nebulous - I've never seen anyone else point it out.

[Thomas E. Johnson]

The only thing majorly bad about it that most people would notice is the spreadsheet pattern cut into the hull. Gaston says the stern is the wrong shape, but that's quite difficult to explain and rather nebulous - I've never seen anyone else point it out.

I can't tell anything wrong with the shape of the stern either from looking at pictures. And I actually like the hull plating detail so it doesn't bother me, even though it is over scale. But as on many models lots of details are over scaled for effect.

[Timmy C]

The spreadsheet isn't overscale plating - it's Hasegawa mistaking the original plans' working lines (used for aligning elements between different views, and not actually in place on the actual ship) for hull plating layout.

[Thomas E. Johnson]

The spreadsheet isn't overscale plating - it's Hasegawa mistaking the original plans' working lines (used for aligning elements between different views, and not actually in place on the actual ship) for hull plating layout.

Ah I see. Well in that case some primer and paint and they should disappear. I still kind of like the look though, technically accurate or not.

[Thomas E. Johnson]

In 1941 would the Nagato have been painted in Kure Grey or Sabo Grey?

[J. Soca]

In 1941 would the Nagato have been painted in Kure Grey or Sabo Grey?

Her last major modernization in the 1930's took place in Kure and she wound up there several other times for refits throughout the late 30's, however her last pre-war refit (spring 1941) took place at Yokosuka naval base. I'll say Kure grey.


if you want to know more : http://www.combinedfleet.com/nagatrom.htm



Jose

[Mike W]

Apologies if this question has already been covered before. I have the newer tooling Aoshima 1/700 Nagato (Leyte) and Mutsu, which look like nice enough kits to me but I'm struggling to find a decent etch set for them (I know someone like Lion Roar does a huge set for them but that's OTT for me), so I was thinking of buying the Fujimi kits as Fujimi do etch and wood decks for them. I know recent Fujimi kits are excellent but I've not seen Nagato or Mutsu here in the UK (no one imports them!), so I was wondering if they are an improvement on the newer Aoshima kits and if so by what margin?

thanks
Mike

[Alex SZ1996]

im looking to buy a wooden deck for my Hasegawa 1:350 Nagato 1941, and have the deck by Hasegawa in my scope. but i am completely new to wooden decks, and dont know if it is the best choice. i would like to hear some opinions on this, or if some other brand is recommended.

[prdtr]

Good day to everyone,
My friend brought me a present from Japan - Aoshima IJN Mutsu 1/700 AOS01012 Kan Colle, a descent kit which I'm working on now, though I lack some modelling skills and I need to know which model originally lies in the box (I know its a rebox model) and maybe someone can show be some WIP blogs or any materials concerning this very kit,
Will be much appreaciated,

Regards,
Max

[Dan K]

but i am completely new to wooden decks, and dont know if it is the best choice. i would like to hear some opinions on this, or if some other brand is recommended.

I wonder if this is a more general question that can be answered on the main board. Hasegawa generally provides excellent accessories for its 1/350 kits, but I wouldn't have specific knowledge about the decks. You probably need to ask if anyone has had experience with Hasegawa decking vs. some of the others available. I'm sure Artwox and Woodhunter, among others, have decks for this kit.

[Dan K]

My friend brought me a present from Japan - Aoshima IJN Mutsu 1/700 AOS01012 Kan Colle,

Not sure how old that one is. Anyway to post a photo of the cover art?