Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
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David M
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Jim, Thank you so much for this great tutorial, I was able to successfully make the stretch spruce rigging and install it on my 1/200 Arizona after reading this thread.
The one question I have is: do you know of any good ways to tighten the rigging lines without having to hold a model over your head?
I am a little worried if I try to hold my 1/200 Arizona over my head with one hand I may drop it ...
Thanks so much
David.
The one question I have is: do you know of any good ways to tighten the rigging lines without having to hold a model over your head?
I am a little worried if I try to hold my 1/200 Arizona over my head with one hand I may drop it ...
Thanks so much
David.
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Hello David M--apologies for late response--I have been away and terribly busy at work also....
holding model above you
not much help there 1/200 is pretty big...
i would try and test your marriage and get your wife/partner to hold the model whilst you apply heat/ smoke
Katrin does it for me upon occasions...
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had a huge stainless steel plate attached to the bottom of the case-- and was too heavy for me also..
holding model above you
not much help there 1/200 is pretty big...
i would try and test your marriage and get your wife/partner to hold the model whilst you apply heat/ smoke
Katrin does it for me upon occasions...
( Mauretania
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... eview.html
had a huge stainless steel plate attached to the bottom of the case-- and was too heavy for me also..
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
For heat tightening rigging on large models, I have found that the best way to hold it above my head is to drill a hole in the bottom of the model, and hang it off of a screw that is very securely drilled into one of the high shelves in my workshop. The shelf is anchored into the wall of course.
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
JIm,
The whole incense thing is really THE perfect solution for tightening rigging. It's dreamy how you can see the smoke stream and selectively tighten things up. Great great contribution to the art.! Thanks!
The whole incense thing is really THE perfect solution for tightening rigging. It's dreamy how you can see the smoke stream and selectively tighten things up. Great great contribution to the art.! Thanks!
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MatthewB
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Very helpful.
I have been wondering what to do about rigging.
I have access to very fine surgical threads (used to sew capillaries and tiny veins), which I was thinking of using.
But I have used stretched sprue before on model tanks for aerials/antennae.
This looks like "It" to do the rigging on my 1/700 ships.
MB
I have been wondering what to do about rigging.
I have access to very fine surgical threads (used to sew capillaries and tiny veins), which I was thinking of using.
But I have used stretched sprue before on model tanks for aerials/antennae.
This looks like "It" to do the rigging on my 1/700 ships.
MB
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Attaching vertical lines to horizontal antennas should only be done using Matt varnish as an adhesive-otherwise the longitudinal will melt and snap if poly cement is used..
Jim when you say a Matt Varnish are you referring to a type that would be used for wood or matt clear for plastic? Thks kevin
Jim when you say a Matt Varnish are you referring to a type that would be used for wood or matt clear for plastic? Thks kevin
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
I use Humbrol ' Matt Cote ' ( the one in the glass jar ) ( image below )
thinned with white spirit ( less aggressive than Humbrol Thinners )
==> high grab, quick dry
allows a little bit of adjustment as well.
Best wishes
JB
thinned with white spirit ( less aggressive than Humbrol Thinners )
==> high grab, quick dry
allows a little bit of adjustment as well.
Best wishes
JB
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Javlin
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Will do Thks Kevin
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shipclambake
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Hi Jim I followed you here from Reddit lol, Thanks for posting in my sprue stretching post now Im here. 
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
That was me who posted on your Reddit thread, actually - Jim's much better at this!
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Thanks.Timmy C wrote:That was me who posted on your Reddit thread, actually - Jim's much better at this!
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Great tutorial Jim, thank! 
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
I prefer sandlewood - very aromatic! Also covers the smell of glue and paint.sargentx wrote:JIm,
The whole incense thing is really THE perfect solution for tightening rigging. It's dreamy how you can see the smoke stream and selectively tighten things up. Great great contribution to the art.! Thanks!
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Re: Making stretched sprue and Rigging with stretched sprue
Hello all,
I have experimented with the Modelkasten 0.047 mm wire ( Nitinol-- memory wire)
on my 1/350 Tugboat Maanzee...
the results were quite pleasing-- but I still happily used Stretched Sprue for the halyards etc !
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm
on my latest 1/700 model ( the Liner Normandie)
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... /index.htm
I found the ( pretty thin wire! ) OK for the thick shrouds ( even on the real thing!)
but all antenna and halyards etc were all done using stretched sprue
I illustrate the difference of the sprue versus the 0.047 mm wire below!
I have experimented with the Modelkasten 0.047 mm wire ( Nitinol-- memory wire)
on my 1/350 Tugboat Maanzee...
the results were quite pleasing-- but I still happily used Stretched Sprue for the halyards etc !
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... /index.htm
on my latest 1/700 model ( the Liner Normandie)
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... /index.htm
I found the ( pretty thin wire! ) OK for the thick shrouds ( even on the real thing!)
but all antenna and halyards etc were all done using stretched sprue
I illustrate the difference of the sprue versus the 0.047 mm wire below!
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com