Pontosmodel 1/200 HMS Hood 1941 Detail Set

[Pontosmodel]

There are many stays in the inside of the funnel
This is a bit of a guess, really, but matches photographs.

During my precious Saturday, I looked over and searched more pictures via H.M.S. Hood Association http://www.hmshood.com.
And it seems there are thin horizontal bars over the vertical Jack stay.
And This VJS is over the circular Jackstay internal surrounding funnel.
Conclusion? I need to see more photos.




Thank you
Keumho Kim

[EJFoeth]

I agree you need more photos but they are very difficult to find! I have some info here

[Pontosmodel]

Yep I may adapt your idea for the funnel in the end.

Anyway I need to find for more pictures for referring the following part too.

The left side base frame has straight up to down 3 holes but the right has 3 triangle holes based on the Warspite book of AoS series.
Needed photos are the left-back and under the main light area.

Thank you
Keumho Kim

[FW_Allen]

I'm not sure that bells would be worthwhile at this scale (or that they'd even be seen...except for an in-port diorama type display), but here's the info you asked for:

First, the main bell (the one recovered from the wreck). This one is about 18" high. The bell is waaaaay in the background in the main photo. That frame was about 10 feet high!

Second, one of the watch bells. Again, the bell is well behind the main in the photo (I estimate its about 10-12 feet behind the man). These were larger than the main bell. There were at least two such bells aboard Hood...but we're not sure if both were retained after tannoy systems were added. One crewman recalls just the amidships bell and main bell when he was aboard in 1940.

[Pontosmodel]

The bells and frames are no problem in realizing except the right shape of Crown.

Though uncertain that all three bells had remained by 1941, but we would add all at this set.
I think the bell is one of the symbolic and important thing in ship and so recently we have tried to realize and add in our sets.

Thank you
Keumho Kim

[FW_Allen]

Yep I may adapt your idea for the funnel in the end.

Anyway I need to find for more pictures for referring the following part too.

The left side base frame has straight up to down 3 holes but the right has 3 triangle holes based on the Warspite book of AoS series.
Needed photos are the left-back and under the main light area.

Thank you
Keumho Kim

I've attached some searchlight photos (all from Hood in 1940/41) below. I'm not sure that any of them will be of help though.

[Pontosmodel]

Very very helpfuls especially the mid-bottom photo of the first file.

Today, we assembled the Birdge of second try.

Thank you
Keumho Kim

[FW_Allen]

I'm not sure if you've already got this information or not, but one important thing missing from all models of Hood are her Denton Rafts. Several of these were added to the ship shortly before she was sunk...and a good thing to, because it was these rafts that saved the three survivors. EJ Foeth has some great images on his site.
http://ontheslipway.com/?p=1617

Not sure if the following is helpful or not, but here are some close-ups of various vents (showing the type of mesh/grille used in each...not that some of these would show up even at 1/200 scale):

Since you are going into ultra detail, you might also consider the various badges that were attached to each of the ship's boats (all notable boats had the ships badge on either side of the bow...except for the Admiral's Barge which had a VADM flag painted on each side. Of course, if that level of detail is sought, then I'd go after the voicetubes and various bits of cable trunking (of course, that will be hard to nail down precisely using only photos...plans are not much help for Hood as sunk).

Note - I edited this post on 1 December to fix a broken link.

[FW_Allen]

Very very helpfuls especially the mid-bottom photo of the first file.

Today, we assembled the Birdge of second try.

Thank you
Keumho Kim

Wow! That is looking very good indeed! The shape of the Torpedo Control Platform is a tad off, but at least matches the plans (which omitted some small protrusions)

I do have one more suggestion though- Hood actually had two more aerials on her spotting/control top:

I'm afraid I don't have very clear photos of the aerials, but they were definitely there in 1941 (as sunk) though.

Note - I edited this post on 1 December to fix a broken link.

[FW_Allen]

I just noticed something- the rangefinder is missing from in front of the upper/aft Air Defence Platform:

EDITED: This information is not correct...I forgot that this rangefinder was removed in 1940. Please ignore this post and image.

[Pontosmodel]

I just noticed something- the rangefinder is missing from in front of the upper/aft Air Defence Platform:

I posted this bridge photo for showing main structure shape. so at final stage many various equipments and other small parts will be added.

I'm afraid I don't have very clear photos of the aerials, but they were definitely there in 1941 (as sunk) though.

Yep we noticed and will add some thing after finding more detailed photos or researching similar aerial assembly from other HMS ships.

Not sure if the following is helpful or not, but here are some close-ups of various vents (showing the type of mesh/grille used in each...not that some of these would show up even at 1/200 scale):

As for the Vents including mushroom types, we will arrange at final stage.
The duct meshes can be added if the practical 1/200 sizes are effective.

I'm not sure if you've already got this information or not, but one important thing missing from all models of Hood are her Denton Rafts. Several of these were added to the ship shortly before she was sunk...and a good thing to, because it was these rafts that saved the three survivors. EJ Foeth has some great images on his site.

Three dear survivors made me spend 30 minutes to drawing this raft.
Some more layers of PE will be one set for realizing the effective thickness.


Thank you
Keumho Kim

[Aop Aur]

Pontos never failed to amaze me! If I have such PE and ascessory designing skill, what would happen?!
You guys really care for the details and accuracy of the set!

[Timhan]

Frank, this is only a thought, but you will recall when the 350 scale Trump kit was released, the world
went nuts. Since then the Hood website has withdrawn what was a very active forum for those (including me)
who were building that kit. Have you considered reactivating that forum for the legion of modelers out there
who will be busting a boiler to start building once the after market goodies are available??.
Tim.

[Admiral John Byng]

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Three dear survivors made me spend 30 minutes to drawing this raft.
Some more layers of PE will be one set for realizing the effective thickness.


Thank you
Keumho Kim[/quote]


Hi Kim, you met all three survivors? That must have been an amazing experience!

I assume that the raft was intended to have some men sitting on it and others swimming in the sea and holding on to the triangular parts?

[Pontosmodel]

No absolutely not.
"Three dear survivors" means their story with the Rafts.

Following is Screw.
Some modification of shape might be needed.
4 Screws may not be included in the basic set.


Keumho Kim

[EJFoeth]

I just noticed something- the rangefinder is missing from in front of the upper/aft Air Defence Platform:

rangefinder.jpg

Wasn't it was removed in the Devonport refit, 29 March - 27 May 1940?

[EJFoeth]

Also, I recently found one more very good shot of a Denton raft (I just cannot help not missing these details anymore....)

denton.jpg

Note that I have no idea of they are symmetrical (same front/back) but I suppose so. I can only find one picture of them on board HMS Hood that Frank already posted. Only a few but there may have been lots scattered around the ship, out of sight.

[EJFoeth]

A few small notes on the decks. THe AOTS HMS Hood by Roberts specifies a plank width of 9 inch. From photographs I come to the conclusion that it must be 8 inch. Along the side of the hull there is a waterway plank that is typically 15-18 inches wide. On top of that waterway at the very end of the hull there is a spurnwater, a small 3 inches wide ridge. This leaves 12 inches between that spurnwater and the edge of the cutting plank. Around the barbettes there is also a cutting plank; I do not know how wide but I started with 12 inch as well it looks ok.

Decks_barbette.jpg

In the image above you can see how the planks are terminated (same for the hull). I drew the 12 inch line away from the barbette (and hull) and you go up 1/3rd of the plank width from the intersection and add the skewed line. This nibbing of the planks did not go all around the barbette and a piece in the center shows normal planks. For HMS Hood I have not found a single picture showing exactly where it goes from normal planks to nibbed planks, but the AOTS says 37 degrees so I just copied that (Probably wrong, but ok).

Please take a look at Mr Roberts book page 110 on the details.

OTS_decks3.jpg

For the main deck, this image of HMS QE shows the pattern at the bottom left: it repeats every 5 planks (also for Hood). This is what I am using at the moment with a plank length of 24 ft, a vlue taken from literature (AOTS shows 20 ft, btw, but as the plank width does not match photographs I guess either value is fine).

OTS_decks6.jpg

This image of HMS Rodney shows that the planks meet the barbette without a cutting plank, and that the details near vents in the deck are random? Sometimes the planks continue, sometimes they do not.

[Admiral John Byng]

No absolutely not.
"Three dear survivors" means their story with the Rafts.

Following is Screw.
Some modification of shape might be needed.
4 Screws may not be included in the basic set.


Keumho Kim

Sorry, I misunderstood.
Keep up the good work. I am looking forward to this set.

[FW_Allen]

I just noticed something- the rangefinder is missing from in front of the upper/aft Air Defence Platform:

rangefinder.jpg

Wasn't it was removed in the Devonport refit, 29 March - 27 May 1940?

You are correct! I'd forgotten about that (obviously). So Kim, please ignore my comment about the 9ft rangefinder.