Calling all Oliver Hazard Perry-class FFG fans
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- Brett Morrow
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Here`s another shot Tom, starboard partition with a bit more detail, cheers.
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el Cid
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On US ships, back in the day these platforms were where we stored mooring fenders. Of note to builders of the Academy kit are the WTD on the port side maindeck, the strbd side bridge windows and pyro locker, and the single porthole at the O2 level just aft the strbd platform (this to the CO's stateroom). Academy missed these details.
Cheers,
Keith
Cheers,
Keith
- steel_tiger1
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Thanks for that heads up. I had noticed the wtd and the ladders to get up but didn't see the porthole. Will look for that.el Cid wrote:On US ships, back in the day these platforms were where we stored mooring fenders. Of note to builders of the Academy kit are the WTD on the port side maindeck, the strbd side bridge windows and pyro locker, and the single porthole at the O2 level just aft the strbd platform (this to the CO's stateroom). Academy missed these details.
Cheers,
Keith
Thanks
Tom
- Brett Morrow
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As the Academy kit has been mentioned a number of times, of note the omissions and inaccuracies, there is one other point which has not been brought up, important for those planning to embark on this project if you wish to get it right.
The keel sonar dome is incorrect, it is ridiculously narrow, no one seems to be able to get this right, in drawings or models.
The AN-SQS 56 sonar fitted to a FFG is mounted within a rubber composite blister which is filled with water to maintain shape, on Australian FFG`s there is also a much smaller extension protruding from the keel, forward of the dome, which I suspect is to do with the sonar arrangement, and probably fitted to other FFG`s in other navies, also omitted.
After many years of resin I am having a go in plastic with the Academy FFG, so far have only got as far as the hull which seems to be correct/or close to in dimensions and lines.
The dome is in the correct location, as are the masker emitters and prop shaft, they also got it right with 2 strengthening ribs ( particular for my planned build) but not the sonar dome shape, or the emitters going right round the keel, the bilge keel is totally incorrect, as mentioned earlier, and the stabilizer fins are missing.
Haven`t had a good look yet, but someone mentioned earlier that the duck tail has also been omitted.
Here is a sequence of what the dome should look like, and also a small shot of HMAS Newcastle in dry dock, showing the extra extension forward of the dome.
The keel sonar dome is incorrect, it is ridiculously narrow, no one seems to be able to get this right, in drawings or models.
The AN-SQS 56 sonar fitted to a FFG is mounted within a rubber composite blister which is filled with water to maintain shape, on Australian FFG`s there is also a much smaller extension protruding from the keel, forward of the dome, which I suspect is to do with the sonar arrangement, and probably fitted to other FFG`s in other navies, also omitted.
After many years of resin I am having a go in plastic with the Academy FFG, so far have only got as far as the hull which seems to be correct/or close to in dimensions and lines.
The dome is in the correct location, as are the masker emitters and prop shaft, they also got it right with 2 strengthening ribs ( particular for my planned build) but not the sonar dome shape, or the emitters going right round the keel, the bilge keel is totally incorrect, as mentioned earlier, and the stabilizer fins are missing.
Haven`t had a good look yet, but someone mentioned earlier that the duck tail has also been omitted.
Here is a sequence of what the dome should look like, and also a small shot of HMAS Newcastle in dry dock, showing the extra extension forward of the dome.
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Sutho
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That is not a storage unit. It is "Nulka" which is a decoy for incoming missiles. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NulkaBrett Morrow wrote:There is a storage platform behind, RAN and USN units, not sure on Spanish units as the partition has been modified.
- Timmy C
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He's referring to the platform in the alcove behind the front facade of the deckhouse, not the items under the kangaroo.
De quoi s'agit-il?
- Brett Morrow
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Does anybody have any photos of the inside of the helo hanger that they could post?
I`ve been searching, but can`t find any shots, Thanks.
I`ve been searching, but can`t find any shots, Thanks.
- steel_tiger1
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Yes please. I have found a few partials but no real great shots. I would think that with this being the 21st century there would be all kinds of photos of this kinda stuff on the net.Brett Morrow wrote:Does anybody have any photos of the inside of the helo hanger that they could post?
I`ve been searching, but can`t find any shots, Thanks.
Tom
- Willie
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Hi to all of you, folks:
I have realized that after finishing my FFG Santa Mar�a, I simply forgot to post some views of the final product.
Maybe I am getting old.
So here you are some pics.
Port side : And some closer details. Bridge and flying bridge : And midships : I will post some more in the next message. I hope you like them.
Willie.[/size]
I have realized that after finishing my FFG Santa Mar�a, I simply forgot to post some views of the final product.
So here you are some pics.
Port side : And some closer details. Bridge and flying bridge : And midships : I will post some more in the next message. I hope you like them.
Willie.[/size]
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Amen dico tibi, hodie mecum eris in paradiso (Lk 23,43).
- Willie
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And hi again.
As I said, some more views. Starboard side : Masts and aerials : Stbd. structure details : And flight deck : And well, I think that�s all.
I hope you have liked it, and very best regards from this side of the Atlantic,
Willie.[/size]
As I said, some more views. Starboard side : Masts and aerials : Stbd. structure details : And flight deck : And well, I think that�s all.
I hope you have liked it, and very best regards from this side of the Atlantic,
Willie.[/size]
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Amen dico tibi, hodie mecum eris in paradiso (Lk 23,43).
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Charles Landrum
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Your craftsmanship is superb! Thank you for sharing the final pictures.
I served on the staff of NATO's STANAVFORLANT (old name) and have a tie clasp from the Frigata Santa Maria which I wear often.
I served on the staff of NATO's STANAVFORLANT (old name) and have a tie clasp from the Frigata Santa Maria which I wear often.
Charles Landrum
USNA 1983
Norfolk, Virginia
USNA 1983
Norfolk, Virginia
- steel_tiger1
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Just found this. May be old news to some of you but about 8:20 in they are doing drills in one of the hangar bays. I have only watched 10 min or so so far but a wealth of useful info so far.
It's called: The Last Frigate (US Navy Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SckMQ-yl_4
Tom
It's called: The Last Frigate (US Navy Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SckMQ-yl_4
Tom
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DarcyD
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How did you cut out those holes so precise? What tool or tools did you use. I tried to do this on a spare and it was a disaster.Willie wrote:Hi all,
Thanks a lot for your kind remarks. It is my pleasure to share this with colleagues.
The work of today was quite tedious, the exterior vent exhausts -- i think from the hangar, but i am not very sure.
The offering from Lee was a very odd looking grid :
I had to cut off all the holes after stripping both bulkheads off all the details, until I got this :
I had to place two supports inside, and then to cut all the pieces one but one, setting everyone in place before cutting the next. Quite monotunous and exasperating, but obviously this is a hobby -- nobody was compelling me to do anything...
It was then like this :
As I was fed up with strips I thought I could do something a bit more pleasant, so I started the aft hangar bulkhead too :
The process was the same, to strip the piece off all details, to open the holes and to complete it.
The articulated doors are made with Evergreen "V-Groove" # 2025 which most suitable for it.
The white lines in yogourt plastic are necessary for the painting.
And it is now like this, almost complete minus the two ladders and some minor details
Qued� finalmente as�, a falta de las escalas y algunos detalles menores :
And that�s all for today.
I hope you like it, and best regards,
Willie.
- Willie
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Hi there Darcy and all,DarcyD wrote: How did you cut out those holes so precise? What tool or tools did you use. I tried to do this on a spare and it was a disaster.
This is the easiest thing ever.
For the bigger holes I simply make a number of holes with a drill, cut them away with an X-acto, refine them with the X-acto again, and finish them with files and sandpaper.
For the tiny ones, it�s easier: I scratch the inside of the surfaces with a half round blade until the plastic gets away by itself, and then refine with a file and sandpaper again. Done.
I hope this helps, and best regards,
Willie.
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Amen dico tibi, hodie mecum eris in paradiso (Lk 23,43).
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DarcyD
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Willie wrote:Hi there Darcy and all,DarcyD wrote: How did you cut out those holes so precise? What tool or tools did you use. I tried to do this on a spare and it was a disaster.
This is the easiest thing ever.
For the bigger holes I simply make a number of holes with a drill, cut them away with an X-acto, refine them with the X-acto again, and finish them with files and sandpaper.
For the tiny ones, it�s easier: I scratch the inside of the surfaces with a half round blade until the plastic gets away by itself, and then refine with a file and sandpaper again. Done.
I hope this helps, and best regards,
Willie.
Thank you,
This really does help. The model I have is Academy and the vent markings are only on the outside, looks like this project is going through the winter months. HA!!
thanks again,
Darcy
- steel_tiger1
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Anyone have and tips for building the AN/SPS-49 radar from the Pontos set? I am to the point where I need to tackle it. It looks like a daunting task. I have the main mast nearly done and most of the towers but this is so delicate I am looking for tips. I have looked at many pictures and now the parts fit is figured out, the directions not to much help here sometimes.
Thanks
Thanks
- steel_tiger1
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Since nobody offered up any suggestions. I just did it.




I think it turned out pretty good.




I think it turned out pretty good.
- AyalaBotto
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Hi,
what's the scale of this model?
Thanks.
Regards,
Ayala Botto
what's the scale of this model?
Thanks.
Regards,
Ayala Botto
- steel_tiger1
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If you're referring to mine 1/350.
- marengtech
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steel_tiger1 wrote:Since nobody offered up any suggestions. I just did it.
I think it turned out pretty good.
Hello, I'm curious as to what you used to solder it together. Just a regular soldering iron tip or did you use a modified tip?
Thanks in advance
Gerry









