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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:37 am 
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David,

I saw your thread and was very impressed. If I just had the skills!! That's why I'm just taking baby steps for now. I have not attempted a model in quite a few years and don't want to ruin this one. So my hull mods will not entail very many changes to the hull dimensions themselves. The points were the propeller shafts exit the hull were just to obvious to ignore. Using the mineral clay over the opening allowed the resin to dry flush with the hull.

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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:20 am 
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styrene plastic is what I used to fill in the holes that the prop shafts came thru on the models I'm working on now. I squared the holes with tapered cuts so that the plugs I made to fill those holes where wider on the outside then on the inside to give it strength.


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:08 pm 
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David,

That approach is definitely a cleaner more meticulous approach than what I did. After cutting out those protrusions with the Dremel tool I had jagged edges. After smoothing the mineral clay on one side on a flat surface I laid them flat over the openings. I pressed down the edges of the clay to ensure I had a seal against the hull but did not press down on the clay over the openings. I then turned the hull around and poured in the mixed resin. Its very liquid y so the bottom of the inside of the hull is covered with it including the openings. As it was one continuous pour I don't think it will be going anywhere.
So where you used a chisel I used a hammer.

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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:25 pm 
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I used my Dremel tool too then used my #11 blade not chisel to clean up the holes before I did the above procedure.


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:24 pm 
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Sorry Dave, just my clumsy way of trying to say you were more detailed about doing it than me.

Again I wish I had your skills.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:50 am 
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Hi There,
I am building Trumpeter's 1/200 USS Arizona, and have been reading members build notes and taking note of the pictures members have placed on the forum. In turn which has inspired me to incorporate the hull "fuel lines" myself as a nice touch.
my question is, was the fuel line fitted on the starboard or portside or both sides to the upper hull? as I have seen postings with all variations?

Any advice appreciated

Thanks :thumbs_up_1:


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:56 pm 
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It was definitely on the port side only.


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:31 am 
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I originally posted these pictures of my completed scratch built 1/192 Arizona in the Main Forum, but I thought they also belong in this thread.

Larry


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:36 am 
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Some additional pictures.


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:25 pm 
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lgmccauley wrote:
It was definitely on the port side only.


Thankyou so much for your help, i can now carry on with some more progress. :thumbs_up_1:


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:50 am 
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If anyone is interested, I have a copy of Stilwell's Arizona: An illustrated History for sale on e-bay.

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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:27 pm 
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Let's hope it stays there forever since your post is on a "forever" thread and we hate it when information goes out of date!

In more pertinent news, Lauren Bruner of USS Arizona has passed away at the age of 98. - http://www.dreamgifttoamerica.com/

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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:34 pm 
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Tracy White wrote:

In more pertinent news, Lauren Bruner of USS Arizona has passed away at the age of 98. - http://www.dreamgifttoamerica.com/


Thanks Tracy. It's a good day for reflection.

Jim. (Nino)


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:57 pm 
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Hi all.

Just about to get into my 1/200 Arizona with the full Big ED PE set, White Ensign additions and the Scaledecks.com wooden deck, but here is what causing me a headache - the age old argument of colour.

I'm torn between the absolute accuracy of the darker sea blue which can swallow a lot of the detail as it absorbs the light, or lightening up the model with a medium grey on the verticals to help the detail pop out a little more.

I have seen some beautiful models which have been painted in a medium blue-grey/medium grey similar to the Mr Hobby H53.

However, I'm really struggling to find a shade of Acrylic that will allow me to maintain a degree of accuracy but still allow the detail to show.

I am geared for Acrylics but would appreciate any advice on what colour paint you guys might suggest to help narrow it down. I'm happy to do some mixing if that is necessary. I've attached a picture below of a colour scheme that appeals but would welcome any advice.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
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If you want absolute accuracy you must go with 5-D Dark Grey - it's a fact she wore it in 1941. What is unclear is what Arizona was painted in at the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Some combination of 5-D Dark Grey and 5-S Sea Blue or 5-O Ocean Grey is most likely, but we have nothing official to back that up.

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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:23 am 
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You also have the option, with very minimal modification (mainly: delete the radar platform on the foremast and add the range clocks to both tripods), of portraying her in the first half of i941, painting her up in a nice, bright (compared to Ms. 1 - either version) Standard Gray - and you get to paint the Kingfishers in full yellow-wing glory!

- Sean F.


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
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Tracy White wrote:
If you want absolute accuracy you must go with 5-D Dark Grey - it's a fact she wore it in 1941. What is unclear is what Arizona was painted in at the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Some combination of 5-D Dark Grey and 5-S Sea Blue or 5-O Ocean Grey is most likely, but we have nothing official to back that up.



Thanks for the advice.

I'd seen the colour schemes on the Whit Ensign and Sovereign Hobbies website and was looking for decent colour match and advice, and to see if others had found some combination or shortcut that worked.

Trying to get the right combination to represent accuracy and still allow the detail of the model to be visible is proving to be more complicated than the model.

I'm going to have to make a decision at some point. :smallsmile:


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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
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SeanF wrote:
You also have the option, with very minimal modification (mainly: delete the radar platform on the foremast and add the range clocks to both tripods), of portraying her in the first half of i941, painting her up in a nice, bright (compared to Ms. 1 - either version) Standard Gray - and you get to paint the Kingfishers in full yellow-wing glory!

- Sean F.


Thanks Sean - I will give this option some consideration. Not seen it done that often before.


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Another option would be to go with "Scale Color". It uses white or light shade of gray added to the original color (in this case the dark grey) to take into account scale and or weathering. Check the Tips and Techniques part of this site with the link I've attached. Actually what I'm referring to when I say "weathering" would more appropriately be described as fading of the paint color over time due to the elements.

Franz

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 Post subject: Re: At 'Em Arizona Fans!
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If I missed this earlier in the thread I apologize...

I'm working on my 1916 Arizona model and have begun applying paint. Does anybody know whether the decks above the main decks were light grey, dark grey, wood planked, or brown linoleum?

Also, were the ships boats painted the same grey as the ship? What color were the interior/upper surfaces of the ships boats?

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