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stefan_k wrote:Here is a link to pictures of the Trumpeter 2020-21 catalogue:

http://www.moxingfans.com/m/view.php?aid=7201&pageno=2

There are also two versions of USS Langley in 700, as CV-1 and as AV-3.
The Hawaii in 1/700 has even a box-art. But why Hawaii first?
It seems that Trumpeter is waiting to scale down a ship to 1/700 till it has been released by another company,
like Scharnhorst-Klasse and County-class or Ark Royal.


I couldn't find the 1/350 Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Did they decide not to make these cruisers? :(
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smyfe wrote:Flyhawk Battle of the Atlantic (J class) available now on E-bay and other Eastern sellers.

Beware of some sellers on E-bay especially the ones that have items for sale relay early, just days after it has been announced. They might not have the actual, but they show a picture of the kit as if they do and charge a hefty price. I noticed that some of the sellers ship within 30 days. I would stay clear of all sellers the have the kit right now except Dawngrocerystore)
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JM882059 wrote:
stefan_k wrote:Here is a link to pictures of the Trumpeter 2020-21 catalogue:

http://www.moxingfans.com/m/view.php?aid=7201&pageno=2

There are also two versions of USS Langley in 700, as CV-1 and as AV-3.
The Hawaii in 1/700 has even a box-art. But why Hawaii first?

You have Guam as well



It seems that Trumpeter is waiting to scale down a ship to 1/700 till it has been released by another company,
like Scharnhorst-Klasse and County-class or Ark Royal.


I couldn't find the 1/350 Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Did they decide not to make these cruisers? :(

They still announce Nelson and Rodney at 1/350, but with no boxart, meaning this is probably a "trump (y)" false promise. I would have loved to see the new Chinese assault ship type 075 at 1/350, but no. Maybe next year ? Or maybe it will pop up not announced one of these 2020 days... :thanks:

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I would love to see a fresh off the block 1/350 Arizona!! :wave_1:
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Flyhawk Battle of the Atlantic set arrived, looks great except for the missing turret tops (only got 2 in my kit.)
IBG have announced 1/700 H class destroyer HMS Hotspur to be released at the end of Jan.
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smyfe wrote:IBG have announced 1/700 H class destroyer HMS Hotspur to be released at the end of Jan.
Indeed:
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Thanks for the heads-up smyfe :thumbs_up_1:
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Well, bringing this thread back to the real world.
Freetime is shipping the 1/350 CV-1 Langley from Trumpeter, so perhaps the status on it can be changed.
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Nice! I wonder if in the future they will release an A,B,and D classes?




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smyfe wrote: IBG have announced 1/700 H class destroyer HMS Hotspur to be released at the end of Jan.
Are there any major differences between this H Class and the previous Glowworm?
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Major differences? No, but armament fit, number of tubes per mount, Glowworm had quintuples, Hotspur quads. Hotspur doesn't have a mainmast in the (very nice) box art, I don't know whether Glowworm did. Anyhow, it's 1941 fit vs 1938. Hotspur will have lost the aft tubes at some point in 40-41, and there may be different light AA. Of the six kits in the series this Hotspur represents the most typical H-class fit. IMHO, of course.
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Looking at the Trumpeter & Flyhawk catalog pages added to the first post of this thread (thanks Timmy) just now.
Did anyone else notice on the Flyhawk page (linked) "destroyer RM Alvise Da Mosto"?

download/file.php?id=123310&mode=view

An Italian WWII destroyer in injected plastic?!?
Fabulous news :big_grin: :woo_hoo:

(of course, if we get it before 2025 or so, it would be nice :heh: )
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Quaestor wrote:Looking at the Trumpeter & Flyhawk catalog pages added to the first post of this thread (thanks Timmy) just now.
Did anyone else notice on the Flyhawk page (linked) "destroyer RM Alvise Da Mosto"?

download/file.php?id=123310&mode=view

An Italian WWII destroyer in injected plastic?!?
Fabulous news :big_grin: :woo_hoo:

(of course, if we get it before 2025 or so, it would be nice :heh: )
It would be even better if they would pair the Sydney with the RM Colleoni.
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Plus you can also convert the Sydney into the Perth!




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steviecee wrote:It would be even better if they would pair the Sydney with the RM Colleoni.
:big_grin: :thumbs_up_1:
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I'm sure some of you have noticed this by now - the new tool Bismarck from Trumpeter has entered the pre-order phase at Hobby Search:

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10668009

How much???! :eyes_spinning:
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FYI "Can be assembled as a full hull model" suggests a wl option for the new Trumpeter Bismarck.
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I think it suggests the opposite
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Strategos Augustus wrote:I'm sure some of you have noticed this by now - the new tool Bismarck from Trumpeter has entered the pre-order phase at Hobby Search:

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10668009

How much???! :eyes_spinning:
The same mistake as usual to get a Chinese made model in Japan, just wait to be available with China vendors and will cost less than the half that the price in Japan
my guess is around 80 bucks
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Miguel wrote: The same mistake as usual to get a Chinese made model in Japan, just wait to be available with China vendors and will cost less than the half that the price in Japan
my guess is around 80 bucks
The Japanese price is a good guide as to what the Chinese vendors will offer.

This information is taken from Hobby Search; Chinese prices are lowest from reputable sellers on eBay:

Littorio was List Price: 158.74USD Sales Price: 129.87USD - $88.65 from China - 31.74% reduction in price JP vs CN.

Schleswig-Holstein was List Price: 108.5USD Sales Price: 88.78USD - $62.99 from China - 29.05% reduction in price JP vs CN.

Exeter was List Price: 98.46USD Sales Price: 80.56USD - $64.99 from China - 19.33% reduction in price JP vs CN.

With just these three examples we get an average price reduction of 26.71%.

Applying this cost saving to the Bismarck situation we get:

Bismarck = List Price: 249.16USD Sales Price: 192.53USD - $192.53 - .2671($192.53) = $141.11 (saving of $51.42)

If we apply an optimistic figure of 33% price reduction (greater than the saving on the Littorio) we get a price of $129.00 with a saving of $63.53.

If your $80 prediction were true we would need a discount rate of 58.45%. I heartily hope that it is true, however I expect the price of the new Bismarck straight from China to fall between $129.00 and $141.11 if we can be optimistic. That is in my mind a significant price - hence my reaction to the initial figures published by Hobby Search.
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Strategos Augustus wrote:
Miguel wrote: The same mistake as usual to get a Chinese made model in Japan, just wait to be available with China vendors and will cost less than the half that the price in Japan
my guess is around 80 bucks
The Japanese price is a good guide as to what the Chinese vendors will offer.

This information is taken from Hobby Search; Chinese prices are lowest from reputable sellers on eBay:

Littorio was List Price: 158.74USD Sales Price: 129.87USD - $88.65 from China - 31.74% reduction in price JP vs CN.

Schleswig-Holstein was List Price: 108.5USD Sales Price: 88.78USD - $62.99 from China - 29.05% reduction in price JP vs CN.

Exeter was List Price: 98.46USD Sales Price: 80.56USD - $64.99 from China - 19.33% reduction in price JP vs CN.

With just these three examples we get an average price reduction of 26.71%.

Applying this cost saving to the Bismarck situation we get:

Bismarck = List Price: 249.16USD Sales Price: 192.53USD - $192.53 - .2671($192.53) = $141.11 (saving of $51.42)

If we apply an optimistic figure of 33% price reduction (greater than the saving on the Littorio) we get a price of $129.00 with a saving of $63.53.

If your $80 prediction were true we would need a discount rate of 58.45%. I heartily hope that it is true, however I expect the price of the new Bismarck straight from China to fall between $129.00 and $141.11 if we can be optimistic. That is in my mind a significant price - hence my reaction to the initial figures published by Hobby Search.
Your prices are wrong

Bought the Littorio in 68
Schlezwig Holstein in 52
Exeter in 53,

Is not that predictable ,the matter is the chance to buy in certain places, I know a place in Beijing that even cheaper price can be found, that Bismarck will be around 80 and no more that 90 USD
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