Makes sense, thanks for the info guys. The same thing happens with the hull reds I presume.
So changing the topic a bit, I'm also planning on doing a late-war fit of a Kagero-Class but in 1/700. The newest mold is the Fujimi Next, but I am not sure how good it is, being snap-fit and all. Maybe an older mold is better? I know about the Yugumo with the Kagero deck but not about the normal Kagero one, so that's why I ask. Also, any idea for a good PE set to replace the over scaled parts on this kit? Thanks.
I have the both the Fujimi "regular" Yukikaze kit and their Yugumo NEXT kits (which is only missing the Kagero class bridge pieces to qualify as a Kagero class kit) and IMHO, the NEXT kit is superior in terms of detail and sharpness. Plus the hull lies flat. I had used the Aoshima hull and a Fujimi regular kit aft deckhouse for a build of Isokaze in late 1944 (gallery to be posted eventually), but that was before the NEXT kit came out. Doing it again, I would definitely use the NEXT late war hull, though that degaussing cable pattern precludes Isokaze.
Now, having said that, the ideal would be to kit-bash the Fujimi regular and NEXT kit parts. Which is pretty much what I'm doing in a very slow, very low priority side build. The NEXT hull and aft deckhouse are clearly superior, the bridge likely so. OTOH, the regular kit funnels and RDF compartment don't have the sink holes that the NEXT kits has, and the funnels are superior. Plus, the regular kit waterline plate fits almost perfectly (see below). If you are going to use styrene masts, then the regular kit parts are better scaled.
It is a bit of a pain to eliminate all the holes in the decking where the NEXT small parts go, but one could actually glue in those next parts and then slice them off at the deck level, before inserting and/or gluing the deck piece into the hull There are plenty of good aftermarket styrene accessories for things like 25mm AA, davits, boats, etc.
As far as PE goes, Fujimi's own set for the NEXT kit looks decent. Five Star also makes a regular and an "easy" full PE set for the Fujimi kit, and these are likely superior to the Fujimi set. (For the life of me, I can't see what the difference between the two Five Star sets are.) The only qualifier for all of these PE sets is that these all use solid splinter shielding around the 25mmAA positions, when in fact they were just canvas covered railings.
To me it is a surpise that No. 2 funnel is painted white on all 3 destroyers. I wonder if that is correct and if yes were these funnels painted white on all destroyers taking part in this operation?
berend wrote:To me it is a surpise that No. 2 funnel is painted white on all 3 destroyers. I wonder if that is correct and if yes were these funnels painted white on all destroyers taking part in this operation?
Wasn't just DDs...a photo taken of Nachi during this period also shows her aft funnel painted white.
If these were runs to Kolombangara in the Jan 22-24, 1943 timeframe, they were likely not troop evacuations, but transport runs with equipment, fuel & ammunition for the airfield under construction there. Unfortunately they were interdicted by USN surface units and a/c & most of the materiel destroyed or rendered useless.
But, wherever this was taken, I must say it's pretty hard to believe they would have towed that daihatsu (or whatever it is) at high speed for any length of time...
I think MYOKO may have also had a funnel painted white at some point (later) in her wartime career. But I can't swear to it just now. I have one photo that suggests it, but it is not a good image & I cannot tell the exact date or location.
Well, the Hasegawa kit is slightly overscale, and I think surpassed by the other two.
The Fujimi kit is a NEXT kit, with colored parts and snap together fit. That doesn't mean it isn't accurate or well-molded, just that some smaller parts may be stouter to accommodate the pressure of being snapped into place. A dedicated PE set is available, which helps.
The Tamiya kit is superb in terms of scale and accuracy, to my way of thinking. However, some components, like the turrets and torpedo shields, are multi part assemblies, which complicates assembly. Lots of small seams.
Available renders and photos reveal that this may be the ultimate Kagero in 1/700. This particular boxing contains parts and decals for 15 and 18 DesDiv vessels in their initial configurations, sadly lacking degaussing cable.
Thanks, but as I wrote, I am asking about 1/350 scale Yukikaze (Kagero class) kit.
Fivi_1241 wrote:Brand new Kagero class kit has emerged - made by Pit-Road, allegedly in cooperation with Flyhawk: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10636479
Available renders and photos reveal that this may be the ultimate Kagero in 1/700. This particular boxing contains parts and decals for 15 and 18 DesDiv vessels in their initial configurations, sadly lacking degaussing cable.
Thanks for provided info, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Dan K wrote:Well, the Hasegawa kit is slightly overscale, and I think surpassed by the other two.
The Fujimi kit is a NEXT kit, with colored parts and snap together fit. That doesn't mean it isn't accurate or well-molded, just that some smaller parts may be stouter to accommodate the pressure of being snapped into place. A dedicated PE set is available, which helps.
The Tamiya kit is superb in terms of scale and accuracy, to my way of thinking. However, some components, like the turrets and torpedo shields, are multi part assemblies, which complicates assembly. Lots of small seams.
This is one of their periodic re-issues of their circa 1990s tooling. Generally good shapes, light on details, no portholes or degaussing cable, early war fit IIRC.Good for super-detailng.
For early war fit and more detail, I would recommend the new Pit-Road Kagero kit.
I've been able to look at the kit myself now and it does appear light on detail. Sometimes I'd rather just enhance a nicely detailed kit rather than super detail a less detailed kit. I also spotted it's late war fit and I've already got 3 late war Fujimi ones, so if I get another, I'd go for an early war one
Hello All, I would really appreciate your thoughts on this.
I built my first ship, Tamiya�s 1/350 Yukikaze. I am using Tamiya�s (PONTOS) detail up set, and I also have INFINI�s detail up set and torpedo rails (will use what IMHO is best from every set).
Since my references on the ship are limited to a few photos I managed to gather last years from the net, I would like to ask you about the port holes� Do we drill them or not??? To my mind it is obvious that I will use PONTOS�s port holes photo etched replacements. So � in �1945 configuration� � do we use �standard open port holes� or �sealed port holes�.
I understand that at some point IJN sealed the port holes (which ones?) for some reason� My limited references on my subject � create my questions!!!
Can you please help me?
With Kind Regards
Paris T.
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Reason:Merged into Kagero class thread
Currently building my very first 1/350 model ship Tamiya IJN Yukikaze
Dan K wrote:Well, the Hasegawa kit is slightly overscale, and I think surpassed by the other two.
I should have read this tread before I got my 1940 Yukikaze by Hasegawa However, I won my kit on a very neat price on eBay, and it had a nice Kawanishi H8K as a bonus. So far? I can tell that the parts fit well and it looks good. If is is not to scale, it is sad but not very much.
I know about the Yugumo with the Kagero deck but not about the normal Kagero one, so that's why I ask. Also, any idea for a good PE set to replace the over scaled parts on this kit? Thanks.
However, I won my kit on a very neat price on eBay, and it had a nice Kawanishi H8K as a bonus. So far? I can tell that the parts fit well and it looks good. If is is not to scale, it is sad but not very much.