Calling all IJN Sub-Chaser fans

[MatthewB]

I also see that Five Star also makes a short 8cm/23.5 (3-in) gun. Some of the sub-chasers had these in lieu of the 40mm Pom-Pom or the 3rd Year Type 8cm/40.



MB

[ch hoeltge]

Yes they are new .
I had needed them for my Wa-1 Minesweeper.
So a welcome additon from Fivestar.
It becomes more and more my favorite company .

Greetings Christian

[juergen.klueser]

...I cannot find any information about SC 103. SC 102 was the Captured USS Stewart (DD-224), a Clemson-class 4-stacker. It was technically known as PB-102, but was used as a Sub-Chaser. ...

Patrol boat and sub chaser number ranges denoted different boats. Auxiliary Sub-Chaser 103 was Cha 103, a former Dutch Mine sweeper of class B1.

Cha102 was the former Ardjoeno.

[rafacarasig]

Hi

Im trying to build the Five Star Type 1 Submarine Chaser

I have a question, is the deck all steel? Or is it with linoleum or even wooden deck?

Thanks in advance.

[MatthewB]

As far as I can tell, the deck was all steel.

I like these little sub-chaser kits. As soon as I can get my desk re-cleared off, I hope to finish the three I had started (and nearly finished before my cat chewed them - I had to order replacement PE from Rainbow and Five Star).

The Five Star kits are a bit sturdier than the Rainbow kits, as well.

But, from my reference materials, it looks like the decking is all steel. It had the tread-pattern on some of them.

MB

[rafacarasig]

As far as I can tell, the deck was all steel.

I like these little sub-chaser kits. As soon as I can get my desk re-cleared off, I hope to finish the three I had started (and nearly finished before my cat chewed them - I had to order replacement PE from Rainbow and Five Star).

The Five Star kits are a bit sturdier than the Rainbow kits, as well.

But, from my reference materials, it looks like the decking is all steel. It had the tread-pattern on some of them.

MB

Thanks on this, i'll now start priming and painting

[rafacarasig]

Hi

Im stumped at the instructions of thw five star models for their Type 1 Submarine chaser. The instructions call for a dual gun mount but does not indicate where to put them, although obviously at the bow but i cant find enough references that indeed there was a gun mounted there.

Forgive me for the ignorance but are these sub chasers un armed except for their depth charges?

Thanks

[MatthewB]

They typically had single dual 40mm Vickers Automatic Guns (similar to the British Pom-Pom, but only two guns, side-by-side).

These were known as the 40mm/62 (1.575") "HI" Type 91:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_40mm-62_HI.php



Sorry that there isn't a better image of one of these that I can easily track down.

Some ships would have the 8cm/40 (Actual 7.62cm or 3") 3rd Year Type, 11th Year Type, or Type 88:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_3-40_3ns.php



The 8cm/40 was found mostly on the later Type Sub-Chasers, such as the No. 13-class and No. 28-class. But I can swear that I can see one on one of the No. 4-class Sub-Chasers (But it could also be a board).

But Sub-Chaser #1 had the 40mm Vickers gun, and later had it replaced by a dual version.

No one makes a decent one, and I have had to scratch-build them out of styrene (I do have a 3D file for the gun, but have yet to get it printed due to a computer failure that I have yet to fix).

MB

[rafacarasig]

Thanks a lot Matthew!


So the 40 mm is a single gun variant for the early or i stick with the kit supplied dual 40mm for the late? TIA

intending to depict the CH 1 or CH2 assisting the invasion of Aparri in '42

[MatthewB]

Thanks a lot Matthew!


So the 40 mm is a single gun variant for the early or i stick with the kit supplied dual 40mm for the late? TIA

intending to depict the CH 1 or CH2 assisting the invasion of Aparri in '42

As far as I can tell, that isn�t a PE "HI� Type 91 dual-40mm that comes with the No. 1 Sub-Chaser, but rather a plain-old Type 96 25mm or Type 93 13mm twin-AA Gun Mount.

That was one of the reasons I started with my No. 13 Sub-Chasers, as they had the 8cm guns, which Five Star makes proper models for.

MB

[ch hoeltge]

I haven't the kit yet but from the layout it seems the No.1 kit has the 40 mm gun.
It looks similar to the one supplied in the No.53 kit.

Greetings Christian

[MatthewB]

I haven't the kit yet but from the layout it seems the No.1 kit has the 40 mm gun.
It looks similar to the one supplied in the No.53 kit.

Greetings Christian

I think those are just Type 93 or 96 AA Guns (13mm or 25mm).

I haven't seen anything in any of the kits that looks like the 40mm Pom-Pom.

I've built one out of Styrene, and the base to one of the 80mm AA Guns from Five Star.

MB

[Harpy]

Niko makes a 1/700 40mm.

[tom!]

Hi.

They typically had single dual 40mm Vickers Automatic Guns (similar to the British Pom-Pom, but only two guns, side-by-side).

These were known as the 40mm/62 (1.575") "HI" Type 91:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_40mm-62_HI.php



Sorry that there isn't a better image of one of these that I can easily track down.

....

MB

Here is a pic of the twin barreled version:



Yours

tom!

[Harpy]

Good shot of the 40mm on what looks like one of 251 class.

Vedsx

[phant3]

Hi all,

Im curious if anyone knows the colors of these ships? Deck, hull, superstructure.
I have the Rainbow No 28 I'm about to start and am hoping for some guidance towards paint.

Thanks,
Clair

[Dan K]

Hulls and treaded metal decks are grey. From what I can see of the kit ( http://www.rainbowmodel.com/proshow.asp?proid=211 ), the decking is all treaded, which means no linoleum coverings.

[phant3]

Thank you Dan,

That's what I was thinking but I'm no specialist in IJN in the least.
Reference material on these boats seems very lacking when compared to other nations.

Thanks,

Clair