Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Thanks Mr Kim. Unfortunately, I tried to explain to the vendor when I paid $150 USD for the set 10 days before they went to the convention that means you put mine aside. You dont load it in a truck and take it to be sold. So glad you are helping them with customer services by sending them replacement sets so they will honor our agreement that is now 3 weeks old. While they hold my $150, I got nothing but excuses till the set arrives.
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
I reccomend 23001F2 bsic set to your customers.Giampiero wrote:Hello Kim,
which set should I recommend to my customer for the built the model
Regards
Giampiero
27001F1 full set is good but high cost.
Thank you
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Pete, I think the first lot was sold out at WEM.Pete_G wrote:Hi Mr Kim,
Just wanted to say can you please get a few of your advanced sets for the Bismarck across to White Ensign Models please in the UK!!!! I'm waiting for these to arrive and Dave at WEM is waiting also.
I don't want to find that I've missed the boat on this set and suddenly they've vanished never to be repeated.
Many thanks
Pete D
Lancs, UK.
I think that Dave place the next order soon.
I don't know who is your vendor but the second lots were shipped some days ago to our US dealers so they will receive and ship these within a few days.liberator24 wrote:Thanks Mr Kim. Unfortunately, I tried to explain to the vendor when I paid $150 USD for the set 10 days before they went to the convention that means you put mine aside. You dont load it in a truck and take it to be sold. So glad you are helping them with customer services by sending them replacement sets so they will honor our agreement that is now 3 weeks old. While they hold my $150, I got nothing but excuses till the set arrives.
-Jim
Thank you
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alang
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
You should telephone your card company and advise them of this as it is illegal to charge any card without despatching goods. Card company's are beginning to clamp down on companies that persist in doing this prior charging and in the UK two company have now had all card transactions stopped. In effect they either stop of their own accord or they will have all means of accepting payment taken away.Thanks Mr Kim. Unfortunately, I tried to explain to the vendor when I paid $150 USD for the set 10 days before they went to the convention that means you put mine aside. You dont load it in a truck and take it to be sold. So glad you are helping them with customer services by sending them replacement sets so they will honor our agreement that is now 3 weeks old. While they hold my $150, I got nothing but excuses till the set arrives.
-Jim
The more people report this sort of thing the sooner it will stop.
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Dear Mr Kim,
Will it be possible to buy the Pontos brass propellers for Bismarck on their own?
Am I correct in thinking the propellers dont come with the basic set or the standard set with deck?
I had a look around and the only other ones available are G-factor propellers but they dont seem to look as good as Pontos propellers.
Thanks
Goran
Will it be possible to buy the Pontos brass propellers for Bismarck on their own?
Am I correct in thinking the propellers dont come with the basic set or the standard set with deck?
I had a look around and the only other ones available are G-factor propellers but they dont seem to look as good as Pontos propellers.
Thanks
Goran
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Goran,Goran wrote:Dear Mr Kim,
Will it be possible to buy the Pontos brass propellers for Bismarck on their own?
Am I correct in thinking the propellers dont come with the basic set or the standard set with deck?
I had a look around and the only other ones available are G-factor propellers but they dont seem to look as good as Pontos propellers.
Thanks
Goran
Sorry these Propellers are produced just for the Advanced set or Add-on set.
And more we have not been supplied enough quantity from supplier.
Thank you
Keumho Kim
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
So glad to see this set! Mine is here after the utter stupidity of the vendor. I did read all the comments and debating contacting the credit card company. It is CRAP because this vendor is a few hours away and shows up at a lot of our shows. They are pretty much the only option I have for all my aftermarket.
Blows......
-Jim
Blows......
-Jim
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Jim,
I know what vendor you are talking about as I had the same thing happen with my order. To think I could have ordered it from Japan the same day at the same "discounted" price, had free shipping (saving over $5) and had it in hand sooner.
Mike
I know what vendor you are talking about as I had the same thing happen with my order. To think I could have ordered it from Japan the same day at the same "discounted" price, had free shipping (saving over $5) and had it in hand sooner.
Mike
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Mr Kim,
I ordered my 27001F1 set on 04 Aug. Payment was done through PayPal. Payment receipt confirmed by yourself.
I have not received any confirmation of shipment.
Please advise on the shipping detail/tracking number for this shipment.
Shipment address: DB Janse van Rensburg, P.O.Box 41344, Reyno Ridge, Witbank, Mpumalanga, South Africa, 1049.
Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Dawie van Rensburg
I ordered my 27001F1 set on 04 Aug. Payment was done through PayPal. Payment receipt confirmed by yourself.
I have not received any confirmation of shipment.
Please advise on the shipping detail/tracking number for this shipment.
Shipment address: DB Janse van Rensburg, P.O.Box 41344, Reyno Ridge, Witbank, Mpumalanga, South Africa, 1049.
Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Dawie van Rensburg
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Mr Kim,
I thank you for your positive response and efforts to deliver the advanced upgrade set as ordered.
Your dedication and commitment are greatly appreciated.
Dawie.
I thank you for your positive response and efforts to deliver the advanced upgrade set as ordered.
Your dedication and commitment are greatly appreciated.
Dawie.
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Yep it is a good news you've been one of this set owner finally.liberator24 wrote:So glad to see this set! Mine is here after the utter stupidity of the vendor. I did read all the comments and debating contacting the credit card company. It is CRAP because this vendor is a few hours away and shows up at a lot of our shows. They are pretty much the only option I have for all my aftermarket.
Blows......
-Jim
Please check if there is any missed or broken parts.
Thank you
Keumho Kim
Dawie, proved as I mailed to you.Dawie van Rensburg wrote:Mr Kim,
I ordered my 27001F1 set on 04 Aug. Payment was done through PayPal. Payment receipt confirmed by yourself.
I have not received any confirmation of shipment.
Please advise on the shipping detail/tracking number for this shipment.
Shipment address: DB Janse van Rensburg, P.O.Box 41344, Reyno Ridge, Witbank, Mpumalanga, South Africa, 1049.
Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Dawie van Rensburg
Thank you for your South African red wine
Keumho Kim
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
This is worthy of a repost!
With thanks to "Timmy C"
23001F1 Basic Set:
1st version of the Basic Set that did not contain any corrections.
This has been discontinued, and replaced with 23001F2.
23001F2 Basic Set:
2nd version of the Basic Set, containing all of the corrections.
This is what is currently being sold.
21001F1 Add-On Set:
has all-new parts, but does NOT contain parts from the Basic Set (which is why it's cheaper).
When you combine the Add-On Set (21001F1) with a Basic Set (23001F1), you get...
27001F1 Advanced Set:
The whole enchilada... the most complete (and most expensive) set containing all of the Pontos parts you can possibly get.
The Advanced Set contains all parts of a Basic Set (23001F1 or 23001F2) + Add-On Set (21001F1)
With thanks to "Timmy C"
23001F1 Basic Set:
1st version of the Basic Set that did not contain any corrections.
This has been discontinued, and replaced with 23001F2.
23001F2 Basic Set:
2nd version of the Basic Set, containing all of the corrections.
This is what is currently being sold.
21001F1 Add-On Set:
has all-new parts, but does NOT contain parts from the Basic Set (which is why it's cheaper).
When you combine the Add-On Set (21001F1) with a Basic Set (23001F1), you get...
27001F1 Advanced Set:
The whole enchilada... the most complete (and most expensive) set containing all of the Pontos parts you can possibly get.
The Advanced Set contains all parts of a Basic Set (23001F1 or 23001F2) + Add-On Set (21001F1)
Glenn Cauley
Ottawa, Canada
Ottawa, Canada
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**Mac**
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Has anyone started to work with the advanced set yet. Tips, corrections, advice on putting it together?
Mac
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Take your time?**Mac** wrote:Has anyone started to work with the advanced set yet. Tips, corrections, advice on putting it together?
Mac
FYI though, the resin boats that come with the advanced set are actually these:
http://www.squadron.com/1-200-Czech-Mas ... 200014.htm
http://www.squadron.com/1-200-Czech-Mas ... 200015.htm
I've got both; looks like that's where Pontos sourced them. It's good to know if you want them to match the cutters which were stored above the hangar(s) next to the funnel, as the kit boats don't quite look the same and the advanced set only included boats for the main deck that are absent from the kit altogether.
-Jason Channell
Current Project: 1/200 Bismarck
Current Project: 1/200 Bismarck
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
General information for building the Trumpeter 1/200 Bismarck:
This is not directly related to the Pontos upgrade sets, but I can strongly recommend anybody to use this link to obtain excellent tips and techniques for building the Bismarck 1/200 model. These tips and techniques will surely complement your efforts to successfully use the Pontos upgrade kits as well!
http://www.florymodels.co.uk/trumperter-1200-bismark-1/
Enjoy.
This is not directly related to the Pontos upgrade sets, but I can strongly recommend anybody to use this link to obtain excellent tips and techniques for building the Bismarck 1/200 model. These tips and techniques will surely complement your efforts to successfully use the Pontos upgrade kits as well!
http://www.florymodels.co.uk/trumperter-1200-bismark-1/
Enjoy.
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Hello Kim,
You received the my email?
Regards
Giampiero
You received the my email?
Regards
Giampiero
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Hi Channell,
regarding your statement I consider to compare the pictures of the boats in the advanced set and the boats produced by CMK you will see the big difference between these: the PONTOS boats (Kutter and the superimposed Dinghi) have a hull with a smooth surface and represent exactly the smooth hull surface of the boats which were in reality placed on the main deck (see J.Kaiser: Schlachtschiff Bismarck, pp. 035, 036, 039, 064, 065, 070) and even on the upper decks ( see p. 112) they have a hull with a smooth surface. All the boats and cutters on the Bismarck had a smooth surface and none a clinkered hull as reproduced by CMK.
Best regards
Chris2
regarding your statement I consider to compare the pictures of the boats in the advanced set and the boats produced by CMK you will see the big difference between these: the PONTOS boats (Kutter and the superimposed Dinghi) have a hull with a smooth surface and represent exactly the smooth hull surface of the boats which were in reality placed on the main deck (see J.Kaiser: Schlachtschiff Bismarck, pp. 035, 036, 039, 064, 065, 070) and even on the upper decks ( see p. 112) they have a hull with a smooth surface. All the boats and cutters on the Bismarck had a smooth surface and none a clinkered hull as reproduced by CMK.
Best regards
Chris2
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Jason and Chris,
These 5 resin boats have been supplied from CMK with very limited quantity.
After these quantity sold out, we would input our own mastered Resin Boats instead of CMK's.
Thank you
Keumho Kim
These 5 resin boats have been supplied from CMK with very limited quantity.
After these quantity sold out, we would input our own mastered Resin Boats instead of CMK's.
Thank you
Keumho Kim
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Channell wrote:Take your time?**Mac** wrote:Has anyone started to work with the advanced set yet. Tips, corrections, advice on putting it together?
MacI couldn't resist and have been hacking away at my Bismarck #2's hull when I should have been working on my U-Boat. I haven't started working with the new set yet, however.
FYI though, the resin boats that come with the advanced set are actually these:
http://www.squadron.com/1-200-Czech-Mas ... 200014.htm
http://www.squadron.com/1-200-Czech-Mas ... 200015.htm
I've got both; looks like that's where Pontos sourced them. It's good to know if you want them to match the cutters which were stored above the hangar(s) next to the funnel, as the kit boats don't quite look the same and the advanced set only included boats for the main deck that are absent from the kit altogether.
Channel how many sets do you need to buy in order to have the full compliment of boats on Bismarck so that they look the same instead of using the kit boats
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Re: Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set
Depends on what time you are portraying (most of the boats were left in Norway before operation Rhine) but 1 package of each size CM cutter + the Pontos advanced set seems to cover it for a full compliment with a couple extras.pvk308 wrote: Channel how many sets do you need to buy in order to have the full compliment of boats on Bismarck so that they look the same instead of using the kit boats
-Jason Channell
Current Project: 1/200 Bismarck
Current Project: 1/200 Bismarck
