Pontosmodel 1/200 Bismarck Detail Up Set

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Has anyone mentioned PE porthole shields for the superstructure? Also I would like PE decks for the metal deck areas with the( -|- ) pattern molded onto the hull:

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...as the mold lines show through and they will be a nightmare to fix; plus they would be useful in conjunction with a wooden deck to keep things "on the level".

This may be asking for too much and I won't need them myself but PE porthole replacements for the hull would be nice too. I am in the middle of replacing mine with new scratchbuilt portholes; the hull is too thick and scale too large to get effective portholes from just drilling them out plus many of the portholes are misshapen and warped from the molding process.

Before (after an attempt to fix the warped portholes):

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after:

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It would have been great to have precut PE porthole strips to inlet into the hull instead of individual pieces of styrene card like I used. Just an idea anyway!

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Channell wrote:Has anyone mentioned PE porthole shields for the superstructure? Also I would like PE decks for the metal deck areas with the( -|- ) pattern molded onto the hull:

...as the mold lines show through and they will be a nightmare to fix; plus they would be useful in conjunction with a wooden deck to keep things "on the level".

This may be asking for too much and I won't need them myself but PE porthole replacements for the hull would be nice too. I am in the middle of replacing mine with new scratchbuilt portholes; the hull is too thick and scale too large to get effective portholes from just drilling them out plus many of the portholes are misshapen and warped from the molding process.

Before (after an attempt to fix the warped portholes):


after:


It would have been great to have precut PE porthole strips to inlet into the hull instead of individual pieces of styrene card like I used. Just an idea anyway!

My $.02 as I dive into my own Bismarck build...
All your wishing ponits come to this set.

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I am wandering if it is possible to reproduce the hull planking or at least the armor plates and main strakes as an option.

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Rafael wrote:I am wandering if it is possible to reproduce the hull planking or at least the armor plates and main strakes as an option.

Rafael
Not yet looked over the hul plates.
But these may not be included at basic detail up set because the price range has been already determined..
As you mentioned as to advanced option if designed.

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Hi Kim,

One thing just came up to my mind, at such big scale, would it be possible that the railings are of stanchions and we put thread through the holes on the stanchions to make railings ? It is like those in Revell's Fletcher Class destroyer.

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Douglas wrote:Hi Kim,

One thing just came up to my mind, at such big scale, would it be possible that the railings are of stanchions and we put thread through the holes on the stanchions to make railings ? It is like those in Revell's Fletcher Class destroyer.

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Both types will be included...

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Pontosmodel wrote:Both types will be included...

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This is excellent, Kim !! Thanks !

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Hi Kim, one more thing. What about a full list of all the parts (PE, turned copper, resin, etc. ). I am doing the New Jersey with your set but I found it a bit difficult to follow. If there is a full parts list, sorted in different steps, it sure would aid idiot like me to follow better.

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Douglas wrote:Hi Kim, one more thing. What about a full list of all the parts (PE, turned copper, resin, etc. ). I am doing the New Jersey with your set but I found it a bit difficult to follow. If there is a full parts list, sorted in different steps, it sure would aid idiot like me to follow better.

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I understand there are so many PE parts to find because we also need much time to do

We 've listed on the manual the Turned Brass parts and Resin parts though it is practically impossible the PE part list.
But we try to collect PE parts at same area of PE frets.


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hows the pe coming along any idea of a release date yet
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Brass masts ??
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Bill Code wrote:Brass masts ??
Hi, Bill

That must be expected! :wave_1:

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Hi, when is the expected release date for this set, and when will the price be announced? I'm trying to decide whether to wait for this set or purchase the one that's already been released by another producer. Knowing the price would be helpful.
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knowing the price and release date would be really helpful. I'm not willing to pay the amounts being asked from the other supplier and depending on the price of this product I might just do it out of the box. The kit was already way too much money for me, it will be months before I eat again !!! :big_grin:

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tko24 wrote:Hi, when is the expected release date for this set, and when will the price be announced? I'm trying to decide whether to wait for this set or purchase the one that's already been released by another producer. Knowing the price would be helpful.
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npb748r wrote:knowing the price and release date would be really helpful. I'm not willing to pay the amounts being asked from the other supplier and depending on the price of this product I might just do it out of the box. The kit was already way too much money for me, it will be months before I eat again !!! :big_grin:

thanks

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O.K. Releasing date maybe Late January or Early February.

We can't anounce the retail price excatly yet because we have not finazlized PE contents and turned brass parts not determined. Especially Veteranmodel has been working Water Blastbag resins, so this resin cost is also not determined yet.
But we are trying to make the retail price of this set as 160USD though 10USD or slightly much more can be added or reduced based on resulting contents.
Sorry for the high retail price range. but please understand this is 1/200 BB not 1/350...

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hi
thats not to bad dollar/pound conversion that will be �99.57 but i bet they will just change the dollar sign for a pound sign.
so it wont be any cheeper than buying it from overseas
how can they do that and get away with it
im not talking about pontos by the way
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Hi Pontos,
I have an idea for you on how to replicate the rivet and plate detail on the hulls of ships.

Would it be possible to use rub down decals the same way Archer do for AFV modelers?

I�m currently building Dreadnought using one of your sets and cannot find suitable reference for the hull plating, the thought of being able to purchase such detail would be appealing. I have also noticed that the builders of the Trumpeter 200th scale Bismarck have been lamenting about the lack of this type of detail.

Also another idea, as you produce the wood veneer decks could it be possible to use the same technique to produce deck masks? A single mask to cover an entire area of deck to allow airbrushing of deck fittings is, again, very appealing.

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I juust read the previous post and thought I'd link you to a supplier of said rivets. The first part of the page is all about 1/48 aircraft sets, the second part is their "free lines" range.

I have the 1/32 free lines set for model aircraft and can inform you that each rivet is approx. 0.3mm� and spaced 0.75mm apart. Each line is spaced approx 4mm apart.

http://www.hgwmodels.cz/products/rivets-nyty/

Sorry for piping in here, but i just wanted to make you all aware of this new product. I haven't tried them myself as yet, but I am reliably informed by the aircraft model fraternity that they are very good. The only caveat with these is they MUST go on to a primer coat, preferably mr surfacer, and must NOT be used directly on plastic or resin.

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i hope this set adresses the shortcomings of the 20mm single guns on her deck..One of the shortcomings of this model IMHO. :smallsmile:
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bismarck builder wrote:hi
thats not to bad dollar/pound conversion that will be �99.57 but i bet they will just change the dollar sign for a pound sign.
so it wont be any cheeper than buying it from overseas
how can they do that and get away with it
im not talking about pontos by the way
gary r
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