1:72 CCG MSPV (2012): 3D printing project. COMPLETE

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Just to get an idea, how much roughly did the frame below set you back ?

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http://www.shapeways.com/materials/frosted-detail

"FUD" material is USD3.49/cm3... and there is a good number of cm3's in there...
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Yes, I know, how they calculate it, but would have liked to get a rough idea of the cost such a part before diving myself into the subject matter :big_grin:

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Pretty amazing Pat. Hard to believe parts made by a "printer". Looking great.... :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
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A little hard to see all the parts in some of the previous shots, so's here's a catalog for anyone keeping score.
I actually have a lot more parts coming in the net 2 weeks... in the meantime, I'll be fettling these, getting them ready for paint.

Again, the parts come in with some wax and oil, which I clean off each part with warm soapy water and a toothbrush. Then, each part needs a certain amount of surface smoothing in addition to the deflashing/sprue clean up that you'd expect with a plastic kit.

The plastic is more brittle than regular styrene, which means de-spruing needs to be done more carefully. You can't just snip the parts off... I've been using a jeweler's saw instead.
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The House
The House
Hull... with black CA gooped on to hold the internal bulkheads.
Hull... with black CA gooped on to hold the internal bulkheads.
Ladders and railings
Ladders and railings
Rub rails and aft aux gasoline tanks
Rub rails and aft aux gasoline tanks
Forward bulwark braces
Forward bulwark braces
Some boxy things
Some boxy things
RHIB outboards
RHIB outboards
Reels & liferaft racks
Reels & liferaft racks
RHIB cradles, cages, lift structures
RHIB cradles, cages, lift structures
Vent gratings
Vent gratings
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more
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Doors & hatch covers
Doors & hatch covers
Skegs & props
Skegs & props
Bevy of vent pipes
Bevy of vent pipes
Crane parts
Crane parts
Capstans, ground tackle gear
Capstans, ground tackle gear
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And here's what's coming:
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Miscellaneous things that stick out here and there
Miscellaneous things that stick out here and there
Pilot house glazing (clear)
Pilot house glazing (clear)
The RHIBs and a few little parts
The RHIBs and a few little parts
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Alright, after a long time of researching, designing, ordering, and waiting for the UPS man, I now have ALL parts in hand to complete the build. Basically, I'm at the point where a kit modeler excitedly opens the new box!

Most everything has been washed, de-sprued, fettled, and washed again, ready for paint and assembly. And indeed, I've started with prime/sand/prime/sand/repeat on the large parts-- hull and cabin. A lot of filling is needed to remove all traces of the 3D Print strata.

The new RHIB parts were just received today. These come from i.materialise, a Belgian firm that operates like Shapeways, but also farms work out to shops around the world... my parts came to me in Michigan from Wisconsin.
Shapeways' fine detail parts are all done on multijets, but i.materialise leans heavily on stereolithography (the process where parts are drawn by laser in a pool of liquid resin). Both processes are capable of very high definition... but you are at the mercy of the supplier, who may choose not to use the highest def process in interests of processing time. You can still see the strata on the close up of the small RHIB... but it's almost invisible to my unaided 56 year old eyes. They'll still get sanded and filled though.

Another point is that you are at the mercy of part orientation... look closely at the seat/deck assembly for the large RHIB, it's downright glossy... that surface was horizontal and up.
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RHIBs. Big ones are split so that I could hollow them out to save material.
RHIBs. Big ones are split so that I could hollow them out to save material.
Small RHIB, with visible striations
Small RHIB, with visible striations
Hull, nicely filled and smoothed.
Hull, nicely filled and smoothed.
Hull, cabin, roof-- all coming along nicely
Hull, cabin, roof-- all coming along nicely
124 stanchions in 0.5mm stock- all desprued and fettled.
124 stanchions in 0.5mm stock- all desprued and fettled.
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ok I registered and am posting so that I can follow this build better!
Looks great so far!
I sent an e-mail out to Hawk Graphics in Canada asking about decvals for Cdn Coast Guard vessels. I have the PDF of our color scheme and appearance, so if they are interested, I might be able to get them to produce a decal set of some sort.

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I lied. I said this model would be 99% 3D Printed. Well, maybe 96%... I made the main deck from plywood & styrene.
I did design a deck for printing, but it was so trivial I didn't bother... just used the design as a pattern to cut out the 1/32" aircraft ply, and coated that with 0.010" styrene.
Also, the bulkheads and deck beams are ply.
And I turned the exhaust outlets from brass.
I have to admit, it was good smelling the sawdust again as I sanded the deck edge...


BTW, the notches in the aft quarters are for ejectable gasoline tanks, as spec'd by the CCG. The ship is diesel powered, so they have to carry gasoline for the boats on deck. This is done with these side tanks, and the tanks are ejectable for safety reasons...
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Almost forgot the bow thruster!

The bore through is about 5/16" diameter.
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Propshafts-on-skegs, and aft quarter rub rails. I printed the portion of the rub rails with all the intersecting parts, and used 1/2 round styrene for the long straight run forward.
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1:1 skegs and rub rails
1:1 skegs and rub rails
My skegs
My skegs
My rub rails
My rub rails
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A busy weekend with the airbrush. Lots of little details, as well as big jobs like the hull. I jump around a bit... painted and assembled the aft ladder for example.
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Hull mostly painted
Hull mostly painted
Aft ladder, all 3DP
Aft ladder, all 3DP
1:1 ladder... ok, a few liberties taken... my railings are a heavy 0.75mm, close to the limit for this printing technology and modeling feasibility.
1:1 ladder... ok, a few liberties taken... my railings are a heavy 0.75mm, close to the limit for this printing technology and modeling feasibility.
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Great stuff Pat! :thumbs_up_1:

I always have to do a double take to check if I'm looking at a picture or the model. OK, that may be a slight exaggeration, but not by much.

Thanks for posting your work (play).
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The forward bulwark braces (20 per side) are ALL different, to fit inside the bulwark with its changing form. Of course you COULD design these to be printed with the hull, but then it would be a nightmare to sand between them, not to mention painting, especially where they meet the deck. So they're all loose, and now it's time to pay the piper...

I designed them 0.5mm "into" the bulwark wall, and then subtracted them from the hull, leaving perfectly placed grooves for placement. These are all scraped out after painting, and the braces are prepainted and ready for gluing in place. Well, at least I've started.
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Scraping the grooves out... 0.5mm wide.
Scraping the grooves out... 0.5mm wide.
It's a start.
It's a start.
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Evening's progress... black stripes on the white band, white paint on the house (and buffed out too!), and finished one side of bulwark braces.
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If you're going to print a hull, you can include all sorts of features... ledge for the deck, ribs for placing bulkheads, etc.
I included nice heavy bosses for the pedestal mounting.
> Inside, a cut-out locates the 1/4"-20 nuts; a simple cap is glued on to trap the nut.
> Under the keel, cut-outs provide sockets for the pedestals themselves. These are flat-bottomed, and set at the same height, so the pedestals are simple flat topped cylinders of the same length, and they mount the hull perfectly square to the base... no carving the pedestals to fit the hull!

And being so solid, I have no fears about the mounting screws being snugged up over the years...
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Nut in socket
Nut in socket
Cap to trap the nut
Cap to trap the nut
Socket underneath perfectly matches the pedestal.
Socket underneath perfectly matches the pedestal.
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Working on the foredeck, it's like hanging ornaments on a tree...

You can see some of the crazy bent vent pipes along the bulwarks... easy in 3D, they'd be a bear to hand build!
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1:1 version
1:1 version
ALL fittings should be pegged for mounting. Sometimes I remember to include them in the 3DP, sometimes I add them, like here with 0.030" rod.
ALL fittings should be pegged for mounting. Sometimes I remember to include them in the 3DP, sometimes I add them, like here with 0.030" rod.
Most of the gear loosely in place. Needs a lot of touch up paint still. I like how the detail on the windlass came out.
Most of the gear loosely in place. Needs a lot of touch up paint still. I like how the detail on the windlass came out.
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koooorrrrr!! Wicked little project mate! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: looks stunning with some red paint on her.

Cheers Bruce

PS: how much has it cost in total so far........! :eyes_spinning: :eyes_spinning:
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Another example of the problem of surface finish. SLS (selective laser sintering) fuses dry nylon powder together to make the part. It's more affordable than most multijet processes, but it make porous parts with a larger step dimension. This means lots of filling and sanding, which again means that little surface detail should be included to allow for the sanding. It's also helpful to use a heavy primer-filler for the first coat or two.

My pilot house and pilot house roof are both SLS. The house is nearly done and is looking good, while the roof has only had the first coat of primer filler, and could use another before I go to regular "finish primer"... see the steps in the shallow angles on the roof.
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